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Post by pilaf on Aug 5, 2006 19:55:22 GMT -5
I think we're learning something in this thread. Oh, and as for what Mua'dib said, I'd say if anything smoking a joint isn't as bad as drinking. Afterall, it directly contributes to far fewer fatalaties than even half of what tobacco or alcohol do yearly, individually. But then again, the government doesn't draw taxes off cannabis so it's gotta label it as a big, bad enemy of freedom and the American way. The problem isn't and never has been about individual substances, as Slippy said. It's about people's reluctance to moderate their useage of said substances, and then to blame all the problems in their life on them when the addiction spirals out of control. The power is in our hands, individually, to determine how we handle such things.
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Post by Britney on Aug 5, 2006 22:52:05 GMT -5
O___o No? Okay. I have no problems with ANYTHING until it takes control of your life, or you start *relying* on it. Understand? You can go do heroin or whatever and so long as you keep it under control, feel free. Note the relaxing part, it's recreational and not an addiction. What about money?
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Post by pilaf on Aug 5, 2006 23:31:24 GMT -5
Money is a problem, for any vice. Even legal things like booze and tobacco. Hell, some sex costs money, though not the kind that interests me.
Since I choose not to indulge in any of these, it doesn't affect me, but I'm sure it drains the wallets of many. I suppose if a person's pleasure is dear enough to him, he endures the loss of coinage.
Besides, Pot is like, really, really, really easy to grow. It grows like weeds. I said I don't smoke it, and I don't, but you'd have to be a fool not to recognize its thousands of other practical uses. Hemp truely has the potential to solve the recycling crisis thing with trees. It replinishes thousands of times faster, and can be used to make everything from paper to stockings. They shut me up on TESF once when I tried to discuss the practical useages of Hemp, saying "No illegal drug discussion." I was like "F#%$ you, Fr****." (the moderator's name has been editted to avoid more e-drama)
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Post by Muad'dib on Aug 5, 2006 23:54:19 GMT -5
I guess he doesn't realise Hemp is legal.
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Post by Slipper Eater on Aug 6, 2006 6:21:53 GMT -5
O___o No? Okay. I have no problems with ANYTHING until it takes control of your life, or you start *relying* on it. Understand? You can go do heroin or whatever and so long as you keep it under control, feel free. Note the relaxing part, it's recreational and not an addiction. What about money? Money is a necessary evil in these times.
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Post by pilaf on Aug 6, 2006 23:04:53 GMT -5
I guess he doesn't realise Hemp is legal. It's legal to buy and sell hemp products in the United States, but not to grow it.
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Post by Muad'dib on Aug 6, 2006 23:23:25 GMT -5
Ah, thanks for the clarification
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Post by pilaf on Aug 7, 2006 17:19:45 GMT -5
Money is a necessary evil in these times. The ideal of capitalism is admirable, if not its execution. The problem with money is some folks have way too much, and never give any back, and some folks don't have nearly enough.
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Post by Slipper Eater on Aug 8, 2006 5:36:56 GMT -5
Pretty much - although I think the problem isn't money, it's the love of money and greed that goes with it.
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Post by Gold_skywalker on Aug 8, 2006 19:21:06 GMT -5
Money is a necessary evil in these times. The ideal of capitalism is admirable, if not its execution. The problem with money is some folks have way too much, and never give any back, and some folks don't have nearly enough. Yes, but do you think there should be a mandatory system in place? Higher Taxes? Maximum wage?
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