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Post by Slipper Eater on Jul 30, 2006 6:12:22 GMT -5
I find myself constantly disappointed that nobody ever lives upto the standards I set for myself. It's almost sickening how high they are, so I just learned to accept that everyone has their standards and I should be happy for them. Seriously, people do meet them... But their reasons for meeting them are usually ed up. Which would be more accurate.
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Post by Muad'dib on Jul 30, 2006 10:41:34 GMT -5
It's like memories: the bad ones and anomalies are more noticeable. I get what you are saying, by applying that logic to other situations, but yeah, thats a good point. I find myself constantly disappointed that nobody ever lives upto the standards I set for myself. It's almost sickening how high they are, so I just learned to accept that everyone has their standards and I should be happy for them. Kind of egotistical, you mean? (Them, not you)
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Post by Britney on Jul 30, 2006 11:09:22 GMT -5
How do you "like" being around somebody who conflicts with your own standards? I made this thread because I recently threw a prospective boyfriend out the door. He was bugging me last weekend, telling me not to apply to a particular academic program, telling me "you'll never get in! Set your sights lower!" and other such discouraging nonsense. I told him he could go bring someone else down, and kicked him out. What's more, is that this week I was accepted to the program. One of my standards is to always encourage my friends, no matter how lofty or seemingly unattainable their goals are. To say that "I look at everything based on my feelings toward that person, not my feelings towards how people should act" does not make sense to me. The way people act influence your feelings towards them. Obviously when one's actions conflict with your own standards, you are going to derive a negative feeling... and consequently you shouldn't "like" hanging out with them... You see, if I was a gay man, and the guy you kicked out had turned gay for me, and he pulled crap like that, I'd kick him out because he isn't being supportive to me. It wouldn't have anything to do with my 'standards' it would have to do with my feelings towards that person. When you say standards, you make it seem like you have a little checklist written down somewhere. If that's not really what you're saying (and it probably isn't), then you can really probably ignore me. I just don't think that relationships or friendships are based on some little checklist that we can accurately write down. It is a checklist. And its not written down somewhere, it exists as a series of switches which governs my emotions. If I discourage someone, a switch gets flipped and I feel bad. If I lie, I feel upset. If I kill, I feel remorse. Sure there may be exceptions where such standards would be detrimental to follow (i.e. if you must lie or kill to stay alive) and are thus obviated by the standard of preserving your own life (which itself isn't ultimate, as there may be times you would rather die than break your own standards). That doesn't mean that such a checklist can't be absolute. It is all a balancing act. Certainly one must examine every action on a case-by-case basis, and standards provide the doctrine for viewing such actions.
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Post by Slipper Eater on Jul 30, 2006 17:49:58 GMT -5
I find myself constantly disappointed that nobody ever lives upto the standards I set for myself. It's almost sickening how high they are, so I just learned to accept that everyone has their standards and I should be happy for them. Kind of egotistical, you mean? (Them, not you) How so? [explain the question, please? I'm kinda tired.]
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Post by Muad'dib on Jul 30, 2006 17:53:41 GMT -5
Kind of egotistical, you mean? (Them, not you) How so? [explain the question, please? I'm kinda tired.] How "high" they are, I took that to mean kind of full of themselves, as opposed to a more literal being on drugs explanation.
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Post by Slipper Eater on Jul 30, 2006 18:08:51 GMT -5
*Still doesn't understand* Their standards are really low, bar one or two, most of them just care more about themselves than anything else. I find myself disappointed when they get drunk or stoned etc, or when they rip into other people 'cause they don't feel so good.
The ones that have high standards are either religious or doing it out of fear.
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Post by Muad'dib on Jul 30, 2006 18:13:58 GMT -5
It's almost sickening how high they are, so I just learned to accept that everyone has their standards and I should be happy for them. I guess I took that up in another way. "High" in a "High and Mighty" sense than "High" in your personal standard way.
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Post by Slipper Eater on Jul 30, 2006 18:58:55 GMT -5
I have high standards not because I think I'm better, I just figure it makes me better.
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Post by Muad'dib on Jul 30, 2006 19:02:20 GMT -5
I have high standards not because I think I'm better, I just figure it makes me better. Just in case you thought I was insinuating something else, I wasn't trying to imply anything to the contrary. I guess my stance on my standards for myself is that i'm my own worst critic.
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Post by pilaf on Jul 30, 2006 19:56:52 GMT -5
I have high standards not because I think I'm better, I just figure it makes me better. But it doesn't make you any better. It just makes you different. I personally abstain from most of the self destructive behavior others partake in, and I don't consider myself any better. Only lucky and different.
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Post by Muad'dib on Jul 30, 2006 20:03:27 GMT -5
You are different, just like everyone else.
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Post by pilaf on Jul 30, 2006 20:09:05 GMT -5
I was referring to very specific differences in very specific areas. Of course I'm similar to some people and different from others in those regards. And of course everyone is an infdividual. I'm just saying, generally, I'm considered a little off kilter.
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Post by Britney on Jul 31, 2006 21:17:57 GMT -5
I have high standards not because I think I'm better, I just figure it makes me better. But it doesn't make you any better. It just makes you different. I personally abstain from most of the self destructive behavior others partake in, and I don't consider myself any better. Only lucky and different. You don't consider yourself any better? That has got to be bs... if the point of life is to survive and spread your genes, then aren't you a better example of your species if you DON'T engage in self-destructive behavior? I think that you DO consider yourself better, and if you really don't, then I atleast think that you should...
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Post by pilaf on Aug 1, 2006 17:17:27 GMT -5
*chuckles gently* Don't hold your breath, sweetie. I'm very content with who I am and what I believe.
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Post by Gold_skywalker on Aug 2, 2006 1:05:07 GMT -5
Well, you must be to do something as Lavender as using Rp in OOC convos.
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Post by Muad'dib on Aug 2, 2006 2:27:30 GMT -5
Well, you must be to do something as Lavender as using Rp in OOC convos. Lavender? OOC?
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Post by Gold_skywalker on Aug 2, 2006 6:34:33 GMT -5
It's a PC term to replace 'Gay' as the 'Like, that is really gay, man... I got gay'd.' So I think. Not too sure.
OOC = Out Of Character.
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Post by Muad'dib on Aug 2, 2006 6:41:57 GMT -5
Ah, mystery solved, thanks
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Post by Slipper Eater on Aug 2, 2006 16:20:30 GMT -5
I am better as a person though, for myself, not them. I'm happy to admit it, I'm happy with who I am and how I live my life, whereas they aren't.
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Post by pilaf on Aug 3, 2006 22:35:49 GMT -5
I am better as a person though, for myself, not them. I'm happy to admit it, I'm happy with who I am and how I live my life, whereas they aren't. They might be. Have you ever asked them?
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Post by Slipper Eater on Aug 4, 2006 3:51:34 GMT -5
Yes. The ones that are happy though, I have no problem with... If it makes you happy, I have no problem. If it makes you unhappy, then it isn't worth doing it over and over.
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Post by pilaf on Aug 4, 2006 11:41:57 GMT -5
Like I said, I don't really do anything self destructive anyway. I'm just saying that everyone is unique. Some people may be able to handle small doses of certain things responsibly. I went to school with a guy who smoked weed but only on weekends at his own home, and through the week made good grades and held a job.
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Post by Slipper Eater on Aug 4, 2006 20:16:45 GMT -5
I have no problem with that, do what you want - but most of them have self esteem issues or they're drinking their problems away. Which just creates more problems and affects not just them but their family. Drinking to relax is different in my opinion.
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Post by Muad'dib on Aug 4, 2006 21:13:21 GMT -5
Huh? You think drinking to relax is fine, but the second someone smokes a joint, they're self destructive and avoding problems? I haven't smoked any in a long time, more a problem of availability than anything else, but i'm just wondering if i'm totally misinterpreting your post there or what.
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Post by Slipper Eater on Aug 4, 2006 21:17:54 GMT -5
O___o No?
Okay. I have no problems with ANYTHING until it takes control of your life, or you start *relying* on it. Understand? You can go do heroin or whatever and so long as you keep it under control, feel free. Note the relaxing part, it's recreational and not an addiction.
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