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Post by Britney on Jul 18, 2006 21:15:37 GMT -5
This story strikes me a bit oddly, and I want to know what you think about it. If you were on vacation in another country, and a war broke out there, would you rely on your home country to rescue you? Admittingly speaking from a standpoint of pure ignorance, I would probably try to find my own means out of the country, either by car, caravan or foot, thus retaining some control over my fate, rather than stick around and hope that luck doesn't run out... of course I imagine a young family might make such escape more difficult... What do you think? www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/18/stranded.family/index.html
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Post by Justice on Jul 18, 2006 21:29:56 GMT -5
I would be so friggin scared if that happend.......
I would probebly just try my luck, going outside in a war wouldn't be very good
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Post by Osama Bin Laden on Jul 18, 2006 21:30:15 GMT -5
Id go to northern Lebanon, and relax. In all seriousness, in the Middle East, I would rely on my country to get me out. The Middle East is not a place I want to be driving around alone in. I would give my country two weeks to get me out, then I would stop by the Embassy, and plead/yell/threaten who ever I needed to to get out of there, than if I still couldnt get out, I would find myself a boat/plane that could get me out of there.
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Post by Gold_skywalker on Jul 18, 2006 21:48:54 GMT -5
The whole war makes me sick. Both Hezabollah and Israel are wrong.
Israel, for invading Lebanon Hezabollah, for provoking them when they know the Zionists like to go on these little crusades.
Hopefully, between Lebanon, Syria, and Iran, Israel gets put in it's place.
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Post by thaddius on Jul 18, 2006 22:18:26 GMT -5
Hopefully, between Lebanon, Syria, and Iran, Israel gets put in it's place. You don't know how much I would love to see that.
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Post by Gold_skywalker on Jul 19, 2006 1:33:04 GMT -5
Hopefully, between Lebanon, Syria, and Iran, Israel gets put in it's place. You don't know how much I would love to see that. Indeed. However, I am opposed to the total distruction of Israel. We should just relocate them to... maybe... Canada or something. No one cares about Canadians anyway.
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Post by Britney on Jul 19, 2006 8:21:08 GMT -5
Hopefully, between Lebanon, Syria, and Iran, Israel gets put in it's place. Unlikely; Israel has much more firepower. They are also the one country on earth who's government is most similarly shaped to the U.S. government - if Israel is ever unable to hold their own militarily, the US will intervene on their behalf (if they aren't already... since the US and Israel share the same desire of seeing Hezbollah and Hamas out of power).
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Post by comike14 on Jul 19, 2006 8:53:22 GMT -5
I would personally never rely on anyone else for my own safety. If they want to help me out, cool. But you should never place your life in someone else's hands unless you have no other choice. The whole war makes me sick. Both Hezabollah and Israel are wrong. Israel, for invading Lebanon Hezabollah, for provoking them when they know the Zionists like to go on these little crusades. Hopefully, between Lebanon, Syria, and Iran, Israel gets put in it's place. The thing is, Isreal isn't so f-ing PC as were are in the states. If someone pisses them off, they won't think twice to go bomb the hell out of them. That's good in some ways, and obviously bad in others. Something's gotta give here, that's for sure. Everyone over there will be put in their place eventually, but not before this thing excalates to enourmous proportions. I won't count out WW3 starting to brew over there. WW1 started when an archduke was assinated. WW2 started when Germany invaded Poland. So in my mind, there's nothing so small about what's going on here as to be able to say WW3 won't happen.
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Post by Gold_skywalker on Jul 19, 2006 10:41:30 GMT -5
Then victory would be double-plus ownage if they did win. Wait... hold on, so Israel is more of a Warmonger than us, and we're the ones being hated and despised? Bah... Technically, WW1 was started when Austria tried to force Serbia's hand, and when Germany mobilized to stop Russia's mobilization. Then it all went bat- crazy,It was MDPs, NAPs, and other Treaties gone wild!
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Post by Hunessai on Jul 19, 2006 10:54:42 GMT -5
I'd go to the embassy first. If they couldn't help me, I'd try to get out on my own.
Actually, a lot of people don't like Israel too.
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Post by Anon on Jul 19, 2006 11:08:21 GMT -5
The British government is evacuating our citizens in Beirut, but we've got a military base nearby in Cyprus.
Circumstances are different here though. I very much doubt a third world war.
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Post by Ratwar on Jul 19, 2006 15:28:39 GMT -5
Personally, I'd wait. I mean, Lebanon currently lacks an Airport (it was bombed to hell), seaport (the only ships allowed in are for evacuation), and Israel is bombing the entire country (even Northern Lebanon). You much safer in the Residential section of a city than you would be on the highway with Israel bombing anything it wants.
Even if you managed to get out, you'd either have to cross the front lines into Israel or go to Syria. Of course, there is no guarrantee that Syria won't get the same treatment as Lebanon, and I wouldn't call Israel safe either. Sitting and waiting is the best option they have.
EDIT: And there is no way in hell that there'll be a third world war starting due to this invasion. The most it could turn into is a large regional war.
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Post by Twitchmonkey on Jul 19, 2006 15:33:35 GMT -5
I would not go to Lebanon.
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Post by Britney on Jul 19, 2006 15:39:29 GMT -5
And there is no way in hell that there'll be a world war starting due to this invasion. Famous last words.
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Post by Ratwar on Jul 19, 2006 15:47:53 GMT -5
And there is no way in hell that there'll be a world war starting due to this invasion. Famous last words. You'd like to hear the reasons? There are plenty! Like people hating the draft... Lack of first world countrys in the Middle East... UN... EU... Nato... Single Superpower...
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Post by Osama Bin Laden on Jul 19, 2006 16:11:53 GMT -5
I dont get what the big deal is with this war. Two Iraeli soldiers taken hostage, Israel retaliates. Big deal.
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Post by Gold_skywalker on Jul 19, 2006 16:42:16 GMT -5
I'd go to the embassy first. If they couldn't help me, I'd try to get out on my own. Actually, a lot of people don't like Israel too. Alrighty, I thought I was the only one who did not like Israel. The UN is thinking of sending in a peacekeeping force. And hopefully, Iran will be getting a Nuke soon. Hezbollah, based in Lebanon, kidnapped the soldiers and his Rocket-ing the Israelis, and so Israel goes off and attacks Lebanon because Hezbollah is within Lebanese territory. I would have no problem with Israeli specifically targeting Hezabollah, and not Beruit or another Lebanese cities. The reason behind this is spotty at best, it's like saying, if Timothy McVeigh had bombed a Mexican company/governmental building instead of the Oklahoma thingie, that Mexico is in the Right to declare war on us. Indeed, almost all the Refugees are crowding inside an Underground Parking Lot (UPL).
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Post by Osama Bin Laden on Jul 19, 2006 17:51:12 GMT -5
Hezbollah, based in Lebanon, kidnapped the soldiers and his Rocket-ing the Israelis, and so Israel goes off and attacks Lebanon because Hezbollah is within Lebanese territory. The reason behind this is spotty at best, And a spotty reason for going to war makes this a big deal why? The reason for the States attacking Iraq was even worse, but you dont see people running around saying the 3rd world war is upon us, or well be soon, becuase of it.
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Post by lucia on Jul 19, 2006 18:07:46 GMT -5
Cool, Comike is here.
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Post by Gold_skywalker on Jul 19, 2006 22:49:08 GMT -5
Hezbollah, based in Lebanon, kidnapped the soldiers and his Rocket-ing the Israelis, and so Israel goes off and attacks Lebanon because Hezbollah is within Lebanese territory. The reason behind this is spotty at best, And a spotty reason for going to war makes this a big deal why? The reason for the States attacking Iraq was even worse, but you dont see people running around saying the 3rd world war is upon us, or well be soon, becuase of it. That's because Iraq didn't have a high possibility of Syria and Iran joining in. Mainly because Iran hated Iraq and such...
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Post by Ratwar on Jul 19, 2006 23:08:49 GMT -5
That's because Iraq didn't have a high possibility of Syria and Iran joining in. Mainly because Iran hated Iraq and such... Neither does the conflict in Israel. Israel's armed forces are among the best in the world. All Syria and Iran could accomplish is losses of troops and equipment, unless Iran gets a nuclear option, in which case they'll be unable to use it for fear of retaliation by the UN.
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Post by Gold_skywalker on Jul 19, 2006 23:13:15 GMT -5
Israel has already made a statement against the Syrian government, I do believe. Linkage once I google it. www.breitbart.com/news/2006/07/04/D8IL8ET80.htmlHm. Here. Although I admit... I am reluctant to think it could turn into something as devastating as WWII or WWI.
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Post by comike14 on Jul 19, 2006 23:31:21 GMT -5
Although I admit... I am reluctant to think it could turn into something as devastating as WWII or WWI. I hope it doesn't, but the possibility to ignite something like that is there greater than it has been since the Cold War.
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Post by Gold_skywalker on Jul 19, 2006 23:33:23 GMT -5
Well, it is the Middle East. That place is Bat-Shot Crazy.
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Post by Britney on Jul 19, 2006 23:34:51 GMT -5
Well, it is the Middle East. That place is Bat-Shot Crazy. Agreed. Does anyone realistically see a viable solution all ends might come to terms with before blowing themselves all up over there? I sure don't.
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