Muad'dib
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Post by Muad'dib on Jun 26, 2006 10:41:15 GMT -5
Thanks, pilaf.
The first one is far more shocking, but then, I didn't know anything about them then, so I was thrown in at the deep end.
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Post by ExtraCheeZ on Jun 26, 2006 12:47:47 GMT -5
If I had a billion dollers I'd give heaps of it away, I mean... its a billion dollers, wtf can you do with a billion dollers? Even your own private island onlys costs about 3-10 million.
But as for starting my own religion... Me and my friends have considered it many-a-times, but its a lot of effort brainwashing people... but basicaly it works like this:
Fear of the unknown = supersititon
Mass superstition = religion
Religion + politics = oppression
Thus, all we have to do is get a bunch of ignorent people, put ideas into their heads from a young age, make sure some of them get into the government to base laws on our ideals and there you have it, 70% of your world beleives in the stuff you told them because its more simple and less depressing than the truth.
Wait a sec... I just described all the major religions...
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Post by Muad'dib on Jun 26, 2006 13:43:39 GMT -5
Ah, but as TheStranger said, fear of the known can be terrifying. In the form of Reality TV  |
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Post by ExtraCheeZ on Jun 26, 2006 14:46:56 GMT -5
Ah, but as TheStranger said, fear of the known can be terrifying. In the form of Reality TV Exactly my point. The idea that we simply "cease to exist" as a collective conciouseness after death is absolutle f***ing terrifying to most people, they cant even understand how it would be possible to do so, its much more comfortable to believe in life after death, it makes for much more happyness and it can make people much more manipuable. I mean seriously, all wants, needs, fears and expectations aside, which seems more likely? We die, our brain stops creating electricity and our sences fade into nothingness... or we die, our brain stops creating electricity and we fly to a magical fairy land predicted buy some random 2 thousand years ago with angel wings where the creater of the universe greets us with sunshine lolly pops and a gumdrop smile. Our wants, needs and fears all cloud our judgement. You can make people putty in your hand if you just play on them. On any subject, not just religion. |
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Post by pilaf on Jun 27, 2006 1:40:30 GMT -5
I honestly couldn't care less about what happens to me after I die. My idea of immortality is the impact you make on other people in life, which chain-reacts into their effects on others. "A butterfly flaps its wings and causes a hurricane in Mongolia." Chaos theory, or romanticized secularism? In any event, someday, Occam's Razor WILL appear in an Elder Scrolls game, and my legacy and Immortality shall be complete.
In any event, Scientology is laughable to me, and even more so that they rip people out of their money, and even more so that people die, and even more so that they can't handle criticism.
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Post by ExtraCheeZ on Jun 27, 2006 2:12:59 GMT -5
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Post by ExtraCheeZ on Jun 27, 2006 2:30:29 GMT -5
I just went to the scientology website and almost burst out laughing, they start out with perfectly logical statements and in the same sentence completely slaughter their own atempt to use logic... and wtf.. "e-meter" my  could come up with a better scam then that... |
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Post by lucia on Jun 27, 2006 9:21:58 GMT -5
Off-topic: Good to see you back, TheStranger.  |
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Post by pilaf on Jun 27, 2006 17:32:19 GMT -5
Why does this link look familiar? OH RIGHT...I posted it like four posts up.  You fail. Please mod me immediately so that I may punish you.  |
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Post by morty14 on Jun 27, 2006 21:20:16 GMT -5
That video changes nothing. Any belief, religion or not, responds in a hostile fashion when attacked for its beliefs. Hell, that's why we can't have many debates on TESF, because when you attack someone's beliefs, they tend to go to great lengths to defend them. Human nature is bad, don't blame some backwater religion for being human.
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Post by ExtraCheeZ on Jun 27, 2006 21:34:05 GMT -5
Why does this link look familiar? OH RIGHT...I posted it like four posts up.  You fail. Please mod me immediately so that I may punish you. Thats your fault for not putting it in giant bold colorfull letters so I would notice |
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Post by Muad'dib on Jun 28, 2006 8:40:05 GMT -5
That video changes nothing. Any belief, religion or not, responds in a hostile fashion when attacked for its beliefs. Hell, that's why we can't have many debates on TESF, because when you attack someone's beliefs, they tend to go to great lengths to defend them. Human nature is bad, don't blame some backwater religion for being human. I agree, the sequel is weaker than the first one. And I know, all religion commits evil, thats why i'm happy with none. Unless at some stage I find God not through the words/books of another. To say that Scientology is ok because all religion is evil is obviously not something i'd say is a strong argument, too. |
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Post by morty14 on Jun 28, 2006 9:21:46 GMT -5
I'm not saying Scientology is ok. I'm just saying it is par for the course. Don't get all uppity about Scientology alone, almost all religions are as bad as or worse. Just looking for a bit of fairness here.
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Post by Muad'dib on Jun 29, 2006 7:13:39 GMT -5
If a topic on any other religion comes up, then i'll deal with them in a similar manner of dislike.
Though, I think a guy like Hubbard, considering his background is something worth noting in a discussion of Scientology.
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Post by Gold_skywalker on Jul 5, 2006 18:53:56 GMT -5
What do you think? This isn't a joke. This is what's really been happening under the guise of this supposed "religion" for years. Wow, that was freaky...  |
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