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IRELAND
Mar 19, 2006 15:46:09 GMT -5
Post by Zadak on Mar 19, 2006 15:46:09 GMT -5
Ireland is really not all that great. Why are americans so proud to be "Irish" when they havn't even seen Ireland?
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IRELAND
Mar 19, 2006 18:30:24 GMT -5
Post by Samurai Slayer on Mar 19, 2006 18:30:24 GMT -5
Leprechauns, pots of gold, lucky charms and drinking.
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IRELAND
Mar 19, 2006 20:48:10 GMT -5
Post by eek on Mar 19, 2006 20:48:10 GMT -5
Ireland is really not all that great. Why are americans so proud to be "Irish" when they havn't even seen Ireland? It's their heritage. Means they can (or there's a chance they can) trace their ancestry back to the first settlers that came across. A lot of folks like the idea of being descended from the first bunch.
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IRELAND
Mar 19, 2006 20:52:43 GMT -5
Post by Randalf on Mar 19, 2006 20:52:43 GMT -5
It's their heritage. Means they can (or there's a chance they can) trace their ancestry back to the first settlers that came across. A lot of folks like the idea of being descended from the first bunch. People like to be proud of their heritage... maybe even more so when so many Americans are a conglomeration of alot of different peoples.
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IRELAND
Mar 19, 2006 22:04:23 GMT -5
Post by mastab on Mar 19, 2006 22:04:23 GMT -5
I'm Scotish, Irish, German, English... most Northern European races, but I'm most Irish(3/4)
What's not to be proud of? You can (and should) be proud of any place you come from, the only reason so many people say it about Ireland is because the majority of Americans are Irish. This is not acurate, but I think something like 60% of the immigrants in the 1800's were Irish.
Is this somehow inspired by St. Patrick's day? That's the second worst St. holiday ever. So some guy killed all of the snakes in Ireland? ....yay? The worst is St. Valentine's day. Valentine was a guy who married Christians the Romans didn't want to marry, and, on St. Valentine's day, they cut his head off. What is romantic about that?!?!?!?
(Oh, and many people would consider the Ireland not great part offensive.)
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IRELAND
Mar 19, 2006 22:53:58 GMT -5
Post by Twitchmonkey on Mar 19, 2006 22:53:58 GMT -5
Of course Ireland is great, it's just the people that aren't always so much, but you can say that for anywhere. Besides, its got famous stones, and some castles, and a bunch of pubs....what's not to like? And now it even has fewer bombings, which is lovely.
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IRELAND
Mar 20, 2006 0:03:07 GMT -5
Post by thaddius on Mar 20, 2006 0:03:07 GMT -5
I'm proud not to have any Irish or British ancestry.
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Zadak
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IRELAND
Mar 20, 2006 11:12:45 GMT -5
Post by Zadak on Mar 20, 2006 11:12:45 GMT -5
one of the few things that Ireland is proud of is the world's biggest bank robbery
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IRELAND
Mar 20, 2006 11:53:57 GMT -5
Post by TheStranger on Mar 20, 2006 11:53:57 GMT -5
one of the few things that Ireland is proud of is the world's biggest bank robbery Oh, yes. I'm sure thats the first thing they all tell their friends from other countries. Yeah, what a spectacular moron you are. Your attempts at humour fill me with pity.
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Zadak
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IRELAND
Mar 20, 2006 16:50:05 GMT -5
Post by Zadak on Mar 20, 2006 16:50:05 GMT -5
well what else do they have to be proud of (apart from certain tasty alcoholic beverages) ?
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IRELAND
Mar 21, 2006 1:30:48 GMT -5
Post by ShadowLynx on Mar 21, 2006 1:30:48 GMT -5
I'm glad for the Leprechauns...
They are proud of getting drunk...
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IRELAND
Mar 21, 2006 5:00:14 GMT -5
Post by Muad'dib on Mar 21, 2006 5:00:14 GMT -5
well what else do they have to be proud of (apart from certain tasty alcoholic beverages) ? Well, if you ask me, that you aren't one of their number.
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IRELAND
Mar 21, 2006 11:23:21 GMT -5
Post by Zadak on Mar 21, 2006 11:23:21 GMT -5
not really, no.
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IRELAND
Mar 21, 2006 22:58:03 GMT -5
Post by Cortana on Mar 21, 2006 22:58:03 GMT -5
well what else do they have to be proud of (apart from certain tasty alcoholic beverages) ? They, for one, have the biggest names of Literature and drama. Beckett, Yeats, Wilde, Joyce, Swift... There's also a heavy romanticisation of the oppression of Ireland by England and by Ireland itself. Two Bloody Sundays, Easter Rising, Civil War, Wexford Rebellion, Cromwell, and now the Celtic Tiger and national establishment. Figures like James Connolly being tied to a chair after being mortally wounded just to be executed. Eamon de Valera's, er, disagreement with Michael Collins. Sinn Fein today, and the fall of the IRA. Plus, as much as you dislike it, think of how much my family members must have hated it to just leave. That just breeds curiosity and sentimentality among Irish-Americans. I'll just switch places with you, how's that sound?
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IRELAND
Mar 21, 2006 23:17:24 GMT -5
Post by thaddius on Mar 21, 2006 23:17:24 GMT -5
What could Ireland possibly have over france?
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IRELAND
Mar 22, 2006 1:15:01 GMT -5
Post by ShadowLynx on Mar 22, 2006 1:15:01 GMT -5
The fact that they make better potato chips...
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IRELAND
Mar 22, 2006 3:55:23 GMT -5
Post by Muad'dib on Mar 22, 2006 3:55:23 GMT -5
What could Ireland possibly have over france? Obviously, France sees something in Ireland, as i'm sure you can agree history demonstrates.
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IRELAND
Mar 23, 2006 23:02:35 GMT -5
Post by Cortana on Mar 23, 2006 23:02:35 GMT -5
The fact that they make better potato chips... That's "crisps" to you, thank you very much. I've seen a lot of German influence in Irish history, but I'd like to learn how France has influence.
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IRELAND
Mar 24, 2006 1:50:11 GMT -5
Post by ShadowLynx on Mar 24, 2006 1:50:11 GMT -5
I don't like France...
Ireland is much better...
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IRELAND
Mar 24, 2006 16:09:45 GMT -5
Post by thaddius on Mar 24, 2006 16:09:45 GMT -5
Last time Ireland conqured anything?
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IRELAND
Mar 24, 2006 17:11:00 GMT -5
Post by ShadowLynx on Mar 24, 2006 17:11:00 GMT -5
Well the French don't have a word of victory...
Only good person they had, IMO, is Napoleon Bonaparte...
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IRELAND
Mar 24, 2006 19:56:41 GMT -5
Post by thaddius on Mar 24, 2006 19:56:41 GMT -5
Well the French don't have a word of victory... Only good person they had, IMO, is Napoleon Bonaparte... Haha, are you forgetting the Normans, Napoleon or WWI? The only time that the French surrendered easily was WWII. When was the last time Ireland captured all of Europe with the exception of Russia? Matter of fact, the Normas captured England.
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IRELAND
Mar 26, 2006 14:10:19 GMT -5
Post by Cortana on Mar 26, 2006 14:10:19 GMT -5
Well the French don't have a word of victory... Only good person they had, IMO, is Napoleon Bonaparte... Victoire? What happened to Jeanne d'Arc? William the Conqueror (Guillaume le Bâtard)? Monet, Hugo, Dumas, Braille, Pasteur, les Curies? Eiffel, Pompidou? France had many famous names. Do remember, though, the Normans captured England, but most of Ireland, Scotland, and Wales were left untouched by them and the Romans (Ireland especially). Native peoples stayed, well, native for the most part.
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IRELAND
Mar 26, 2006 14:11:43 GMT -5
Post by darkhelmet on Mar 26, 2006 14:11:43 GMT -5
And Rene Des Cartes. I know the name has a circumflex or accent in there, but I don't know how to make them. Only one e, since it's masculine.
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IRELAND
Mar 26, 2006 14:16:34 GMT -5
Post by Cortana on Mar 26, 2006 14:16:34 GMT -5
And Renee Des Cartes. I know the name has a circumflex or accent in there, but I don't know how to make them. Hold down ALT and then type some numbers in the 120s-150s. Unless you're on a Mac, then it's command and a letter. Now back on topic.
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