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Mar 26, 2006 14:33:20 GMT -5
Post by ShadowLynx on Mar 26, 2006 14:33:20 GMT -5
Well the French don't have a word of victory... Only good person they had, IMO, is Napoleon Bonaparte... Victoire? What happened to Jeanne d'Arc? William the Conqueror (Guillaume le Bâtard)? Monet, Hugo, Dumas, Braille, Pasteur, les Curies? Eiffel, Pompidou? France had many famous names. Do remember, though, the Normans captured England, but most of Ireland, Scotland, and Wales were left untouched by them and the Romans (Ireland especially). Native peoples stayed, well, native for the most part. Don't like them... HATE William the Conqueror... And the French got beaten by Prussians...
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IRELAND
Mar 27, 2006 20:55:13 GMT -5
Post by Cortana on Mar 27, 2006 20:55:13 GMT -5
Victoire? What happened to Jeanne d'Arc? William the Conqueror (Guillaume le Bâtard)? Monet, Hugo, Dumas, Braille, Pasteur, les Curies? Eiffel, Pompidou? France had many famous names. Do remember, though, the Normans captured England, but most of Ireland, Scotland, and Wales were left untouched by them and the Romans (Ireland especially). Native peoples stayed, well, native for the most part. Don't like them... HATE William the Conqueror... And the French got beaten by Prussians... Louis Braille only created a system that allows blind people to read. He's not worth liking? You can't judge Hugo or Dumas until you've read them. They're even more enjoyable, might I add, in their original language. And no need for a reply on French interest in Ireland. I read in a Michael Collins biography that they lent minor aid to Ireland's long-going revolution in the 1750s. I wouldn't say that's too much, though. They showed more interest in America during our own Revolution.
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Mar 28, 2006 2:45:19 GMT -5
Post by Muad'dib on Mar 28, 2006 2:45:19 GMT -5
Last time Ireland conqured anything? Yeah, thats what we need. A planet where every country has such self interest that conquest is law. Wow, i'm impressed. Really.
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IRELAND
Mar 28, 2006 17:55:34 GMT -5
Post by thaddius on Mar 28, 2006 17:55:34 GMT -5
Last time Ireland conqured anything? Yeah, thats what we need. A planet where every country has such self interest that conquest is law. Wow, i'm impressed. Really. Conquest can be used measure of the ambition and strength of a nation.
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Mar 28, 2006 19:09:02 GMT -5
Post by Cortana on Mar 28, 2006 19:09:02 GMT -5
Yeah, thats what we need. A planet where every country has such self interest that conquest is law. Wow, i'm impressed. Really. Conquest can be used measure of the ambition and strength of a nation. Ireland miserably fails at even rebellion. It, however, is still very ambitious and strong that it's never given up in its 800+ years of oppression. Despite loss after loss after crippling loss, it's now (for the most part), its own country. For example, in 1916 the Irish Republican Brotherhood and the Irish Citizen Army gathered 1,250 volunteers to take hold of Dublin on Easter Monday. The reinforcements to the English included 4,000 troops and 1,000 Royal Irish Constabulary members and an entire warship in the Liffey because the original 1,500 English troops couldn't handle it. The leaders entering in on the Rebellion even acknowledged that they hadn't a hope in hell that they would win against the English, but they wanted to make a point. I would think that's ambition and strength at its finest.
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Mar 29, 2006 5:40:27 GMT -5
Post by Muad'dib on Mar 29, 2006 5:40:27 GMT -5
Yeah, thats what we need. A planet where every country has such self interest that conquest is law. Wow, i'm impressed. Really. Conquest can be used measure of the ambition and strength of a nation. Shall we measure population before we begin concerning ourselves with if a nation is strong? A population as low as that of Ireland, in addition to its long, long time as a poor nation, and now struggling to make something of an economy... How about the Irish who helped out in WWII? I suppose thats worth nothing to you, though? Hm.
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IRELAND
Mar 29, 2006 6:01:34 GMT -5
Post by hecktik on Mar 29, 2006 6:01:34 GMT -5
man, i'm from pr but i would still like to live in ireland. where else could you wake up at noon, walk to the pub to get crunked, and come back to your modern home all the while sheep herds be scattered around like cockroaches
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Mar 29, 2006 6:24:39 GMT -5
Post by Muad'dib on Mar 29, 2006 6:24:39 GMT -5
Well, if you want to be around sheep, that means you will be living out in the countryside, and if thats the case, then the few pubs in your vicinity would close the doors, but people would still be drinking in there till much later.
Oh, and they tend to be a lot more lax on drinking age limits. I mean, if you live out by them, they realise they get few customers as it is, and will rely on you going back there for, uh, well, the rest of your life, really.
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Mar 30, 2006 20:36:12 GMT -5
Post by Cortana on Mar 30, 2006 20:36:12 GMT -5
Conquest can be used measure of the ambition and strength of a nation. A population as low as that of Ireland, in addition to its long, long time as a poor nation, and now struggling to make something of an economy... Ireland is per-capita richer than America right now. Look up the "Celtic Tiger" (or Celtic Tiger Mark 2) to learn a little more about the economy in the South, there's a huge boost nowadays-- it's hardly struggling as one of the most wealthy nations in the EU.
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Post by morty14 on Apr 1, 2006 0:46:26 GMT -5
I'll add to the conversation a bit.
My thoughts on Ireland: Recovering nation that may have outlived it's importance in the world. Perhaps a good tourist destination if they can get a feeling of stablity and safety in Ireland for the world.
My thoughts on France: A great country that has had a rough century. The late 19th and basically the entire 20th centuries have not been kind to this once great nation. Looks to be doing better, at least trying to keep the peace, despite the USA's stupidity.
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Post by ShadowLynx on Apr 1, 2006 1:53:53 GMT -5
Well I can't really talk about conquering since New Zealand is just so..........
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IRELAND
Apr 1, 2006 13:11:33 GMT -5
Post by morty14 on Apr 1, 2006 13:11:33 GMT -5
NZ conquered most of North Africa in WWII, but the Brits took credit
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IRELAND
Apr 1, 2006 15:20:48 GMT -5
Post by ShadowLynx on Apr 1, 2006 15:20:48 GMT -5
We were part of the Brits then...
April 25th is coming soon...
Go ANZACs...
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Apr 1, 2006 19:59:45 GMT -5
Post by thaddius on Apr 1, 2006 19:59:45 GMT -5
A population as low as that of Ireland, in addition to its long, long time as a poor nation, and now struggling to make something of an economy... Ireland is per-capita richer than America right now. Look up the "Celtic Tiger" (or Celtic Tiger Mark 2) to learn a little more about the economy in the South, there's a huge boost nowadays-- it's hardly struggling as one of the most wealthy nations in the EU. Not quite. Ireland's pre capita GDP is $34,100, while the United States' is $41,800. While their economy is improving, it is still some distance from the that of the U.S.
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Post by Muad'dib on Apr 3, 2006 2:51:03 GMT -5
Ireland is per-capita richer than America right now. Look up the "Celtic Tiger" (or Celtic Tiger Mark 2) to learn a little more about the economy in the South, there's a huge boost nowadays-- it's hardly struggling as one of the most wealthy nations in the EU. Not quite. Ireland's pre capita GDP is $34,100, while the United States' is $41,800. While their economy is improving, it is still some distance from the that of the U.S. Wealth on its own doesn't matter. A country aiming for conquest would be well advised not doing so when there are such serious differences in manpower.
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IRELAND
Apr 4, 2006 16:42:13 GMT -5
Post by Cortana on Apr 4, 2006 16:42:13 GMT -5
I'll add to the conversation a bit. My thoughts on Ireland: Recovering nation that may have outlived it's importance in the world. Perhaps a good tourist destination if they can get a feeling of stablity and safety in Ireland for the world. I don't think Ireland had importance in the world at all, but it's amazing how it required mediation from America and Canada to bring Ireland and England to the point of the Ulster Peace Accords. And that was relatively recent, and it still took years for the IRA (or, at least one of the IRAs... there were three major ones, I think) to drop arms. But as it stands today, there are a lot of immigrants to Ireland because of its booming economy and relaxed immigration laws. I think that considered means it has a future to hold some real power, instead of just being romanticised for its culture.
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