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Post by eek on Jan 25, 2006 20:14:58 GMT -5
What, so now it's the nerves making the decisions? Please, try to be consistent. The nerves are part of the brain. I am perfectly consistent. Correction: Both nerves and the brain are part of the Nervous System. Maybe some nerves are part of the brain, but not all. Otherwise we wouldn't call it the "Nervous System", it would just be the brain.
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Post by mastab on Jan 25, 2006 20:21:20 GMT -5
Alright, then we are controled by the nervous system.
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Post by illicit on Jan 26, 2006 19:15:06 GMT -5
The nerves are part of the brain. I am perfectly consistent. Correction: Both nerves and the brain are part of the Nervous System. Maybe some nerves are part of the brain, but not all. Otherwise we wouldn't call it the "Nervous System", it would just be the brain. The brain goes to the brain stem, and practicly the brain stem goes through every bone in the body to create the nervous system. So technically it is the brain wouldnt it be?
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Post by mastab on Jan 26, 2006 19:21:03 GMT -5
The brain stem connects the brain to the spinal cord, that is all.
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Post by ExtraCheeZ on Feb 2, 2006 3:30:21 GMT -5
This is why I dont beleive we have free will.
Our conciouse thought is when we make decisions, our conciouse thought is just chemical reactions. You can lable that "choice" but realy we dont control the chemical reactions, so how can we choose what we think?
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Post by Muad'dib on Feb 2, 2006 10:40:31 GMT -5
For something that espouses free will, I find it interesting the numerous parallels to brainwashing one can find with religion.
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Post by illicit on Feb 2, 2006 20:07:06 GMT -5
For something that espouses free will, I find it interesting the numerous parallels to brainwashing one can find with religion. Espouses? Tell me what you mean and give examples please.
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Post by ExtraCheeZ on Feb 2, 2006 21:34:08 GMT -5
For something that espouses free will, I find it interesting the numerous parallels to brainwashing one can find with religion. , its not brainwashing, its "faith"
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Post by Hunessai on Feb 2, 2006 21:55:42 GMT -5
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Morty was saying that religion usually holds the idea that one has the capability of being a good or bad person- thus determining their state in the afterlife. It is ironic that religions sometimes try to impose their ideas on others, when it is only the individual that choose his or her path.
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Post by Muad'dib on Apr 10, 2006 4:41:11 GMT -5
This is why I dont beleive we have free will. Our conciouse thought is when we make decisions, our conciouse thought is just chemical reactions. You can lable that "choice" but realy we dont control the chemical reactions, so how can we choose what we think? The argument we can not control who we are, so we can not control how we think may have some merit. Though I personally think our style of life is clearly shaped by the Chaos Theory. Our personalities, tempered by the Chaos Theory decides how we go about any situation.
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Post by Muad'dib on Apr 10, 2006 4:44:43 GMT -5
For something that espouses free will, I find it interesting the numerous parallels to brainwashing one can find with religion. , its not brainwashing, its "faith" Praise the Lawd! Can I have an Amen!
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Post by penguinhhunter on Apr 19, 2006 15:59:51 GMT -5
I don't believe in free will. What we have is like the blue print to a building, you have many ways to get to the final design. However, true free will is to have the blue print of a house and end up creating an Elf. However, since all logic, physics, and many other factors hinder us from such an event from occuring, we are not free to do such a thing. Thus we do not truelly have free will.
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Post by lulu on May 10, 2006 0:52:10 GMT -5
I don't believe in free will. What we have is like the blue print to a building, you have many ways to get to the final design. However, true free will is to have the blue print of a house and end up creating an Elf. However, since all logic, physics, and many other factors hinder us from such an event from occuring, we are not free to do such a thing. Thus we do not truelly have free will. I'm not sure if forcing ourselves to physically evolve is a form of free-will.
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Post by attrebus on May 10, 2006 1:29:32 GMT -5
The thing about free will is that you can never ever prove it exists (Baring the creation of time machine).
You come to a T-junction and decide to head left.
The person that thinks you have free will will say "You chose to head left. It wasn't predetermined, and there was just as much chance of you going right."
The person that thinks everything is deterministic will say "You could have gone right, but destiny or predetermination made you go left."
I believe we have free will, by the simple fact that I can see all the options and choose which one I want to take.
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Post by Muad'dib on May 25, 2006 6:20:50 GMT -5
Where do you all figure deja-vu into it all? Proof of past lives, or maybe you find something deeper?
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Post by PrettyBurn on May 25, 2006 18:31:08 GMT -5
Where do you all figure deja-vu into it all? Proof of past lives, or maybe you find something deeper? Or it could just be the part of our brain that controls memory misfunctioning and causing a wrong sense of familiarity...
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Post by eek on May 25, 2006 18:37:20 GMT -5
Or you could just have been very drunk the previous time.
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Post by PrettyBurn on May 25, 2006 18:38:49 GMT -5
Or you could just have been very drunk the previous time. Ahaha, yeah, or that. Basically, you may have been in a similar situation, and your brain is comparing the two when you wouldn't think to do so consciously.
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