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Post by Osama Bin Laden on Aug 3, 2006 12:06:05 GMT -5
I am here to ask for your help in finding a new video card. A PCI card. Not PCIe, or AGP, just PCI. Im having a ton of trouble finding any PCI's better than a 9250.
Why PCI? Becuase its the only thing this crappy eMachines hunk of trash can use. It didnt feel the need to come with a AGP slot, or a PCIe slot.
So please, any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by Osama Bin Laden on Aug 3, 2006 12:39:52 GMT -5
I guess Im either getting a new motherboard, or a new computer. :\
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Post by Avis on Aug 3, 2006 12:46:55 GMT -5
..orrr the people who are online right now don't know a lot about computers. I'd go with that one.
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Post by Osama Bin Laden on Aug 3, 2006 13:12:20 GMT -5
Ive been looking into PCI cards, none of them are really Oblivion type cards.
And if I cant find anything thats newwer than a 9250, or an FX5500, its time to upgrade to a PCIe, or go back to AGP's.
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Post by Muad'dib on Aug 3, 2006 16:28:36 GMT -5
I looked on.............. A site.
Only thing I could find was an FX 5200.
I don't know an awful lot about computers, so i'm not sure what else uses PCI, but i'll be looking in more places. Just felt I might as well tell you that i'll be looking for more and what i've found so far.
Edit: Thats operating from PCI. I'd recommend PCI-E, if you can upgrade, as you seem to be planning anyway.
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Post by Osama Bin Laden on Aug 3, 2006 17:52:55 GMT -5
Thanks for looking Muad! ;D
Anyways, I told my mom that I couldnt find any PCI cards much better than a 9250, and that it would be best to either get a new PC, or a new mobo. She didnt say much, but I think shes leaning towards a new computer.
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Post by Muad'dib on Aug 3, 2006 18:12:45 GMT -5
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Post by lucia on Aug 3, 2006 20:05:56 GMT -5
Same prob here. Aside from the X600 XT that shipped with this thing, I ain't found for PCI.
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Post by Muad'dib on Aug 3, 2006 20:13:17 GMT -5
Can you not upgrade?
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Post by lucia on Aug 3, 2006 20:16:10 GMT -5
Pretty much, since I don't like poking around in my PC, and can't afford a new mobo AND kickass GPU.
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Post by Osama Bin Laden on Aug 3, 2006 20:40:23 GMT -5
The X600XT is PCIe!
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Post by attrebus on Aug 4, 2006 1:11:39 GMT -5
I had a hard enough time finding a decent AGP card... chances are you aren't going to find even a mediocre PCI one.
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Post by lulu on Aug 4, 2006 9:33:38 GMT -5
The best PCI card you could possibly get in terms of raw clock power would be a GeForce 5500 FX 256mb OC from BFG. The best overall PCI card in terms of pixel shaders, pipelines and vertex shaders would be an ATi 9xxx card.
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Post by Osama Bin Laden on Aug 4, 2006 12:20:11 GMT -5
I have decided to upgrade to PCIe.
@attrebus: There are quite a few higher end AGP cards.
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Post by Hunessai on Aug 6, 2006 13:49:36 GMT -5
I have decided to upgrade to PCIe. That's what I would recommend. Every new mediocre+ cards from now on are going to use that slot.
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Post by melchior1 on Aug 6, 2006 15:52:15 GMT -5
you won't find a PCI card that can run Oblivion, I had the same problem. I couldn't find a graphics card that was PCI that could run any decent new games, so I built a new computer for about 700 bucks ( around 900 after monitor, modem, amd S&H ).....goodbye graduation money, I'm glad I could use you to buy something awesome
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Post by attrebus on Aug 6, 2006 21:12:33 GMT -5
I know there are higher end AGP cards, but I wanted more middle of the road. Mainly to tide me over for a year or two. I couldn't justify spending so much on a card that I would replace so soon.
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Post by melchior1 on Aug 6, 2006 22:12:48 GMT -5
yeah, I did too.....
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Post by lucia on Aug 8, 2006 22:43:11 GMT -5
you won't find a PCI card that can run Oblivion, I had the same problem. I couldn't find a graphics card that was PCI that could run any decent new games, so I built a new computer for about 700 bucks ( around 900 after monitor, modem, amd S&H ).....goodbye graduation money, I'm glad I could use you to buy something awesome I have a PCI card that runs Oblivion. Very slowly. It's a weird model that came with my Dell.
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Post by Osama Bin Laden on Oct 19, 2006 16:32:49 GMT -5
you won't find a PCI card that can run Oblivion, I had the same problem. I couldn't find a graphics card that was PCI that could run any decent new games, so I built a new computer for about 700 bucks ( around 900 after monitor, modem, amd S&H ).....goodbye graduation money, I'm glad I could use you to buy something awesome With Oldblivion, I can run Oblivion, the only problem was that Bethesda didnt want too support older cards. Im still planning on getting a new mobo and video card though, running OB on low isnt a fun thing too do.
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Post by Nottheking on Oct 30, 2006 15:40:51 GMT -5
For anyone interested (yes, old thread, I know) of all the searching I've done, I've only found a handful of PCI cards from ATi and Nvidia (I've had too little sauces gathering information on such cards from S3, Volari, and the like) that support shader model 2.0. (a.k.a DX9.0) And they are: - nVidia GeForce FX 5200
- nVidia GeForce FX 5500
- nVidia GeForce FX 5600
- nVidia GeForce FX 5700LE
- nVidia GeForce 6200
There are no PCI cards from ATi that support SM 2.0, though these cards are SM 1.4: - ATi Radeon 9000
- ATi Radeon 9100
- ATi Radeon 9200
- ATi Radeon 9250
Note that of those cards, the FX 5600 would actually be the most powerful, but it was apparently sold only briefly in PCI, at the beginning of the FX generation around February 2003; a bit past mid-year, the entire FX 5600 line was replaced by the FX 5700 line, and only the sub-par 5700LE was made for PCI. Later, in 2004, the FX 5500 was made; it's slightly better than the FX 5700. Also, there appears to have been a PCI version of the 6200 floating around; it might be worth a look for anyone particularly interested, though it will be pretty pricey.
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Post by lulu on Nov 3, 2006 10:51:05 GMT -5
The 6200 is definately the best PCI card around.
GPU: NVIDIA® GeForce™ 6200 Bus Type: PCI Memory: 128MB DDR Core Clock: 350MHz RAMDACs: Dual 400MHz API Support: Microsoft® DirectX® and OpenGL for Microsoft® Windows® Connectors: VGA, DVI-I, S-Video Out Vertices/Sec.: 263 million (vs the 5500's 35 mil)
NVIDIA® GeForce™ 6200 at a Glance NVIDIA® CineFX™ 3.0 engine Microsoft® DirectX® 9.0 Shader Model 3.0 support NVIDIA® Ultrashadow™ II technology 64-bit floating point texture filtering and blending
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Post by Osama Bin Laden on Nov 4, 2006 14:17:24 GMT -5
THanks for the information you two, Ive been looking into the 6200 a little and it looks allright, though Im still going to get a new mobo and a PCI-E or maybe even a higher end AGP, once I can afford it.
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Post by Nottheking on Nov 6, 2006 16:10:47 GMT -5
The 6200 is definately the best PCI card around. Yes, I would personally go with the 6200. Technically, the FX 5600 might be a sliver more powerful (which was as I mentioned) but in practice, this would only apply to SM 1.4 and earlier stuff, and not to mention, they haven't sold them since late 2003... That, and the list was painfuly clear on what one card "did not belong."
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Post by lulu on Nov 7, 2006 7:26:17 GMT -5
ATi has made a PCI version of the x1300. It's their very first DX9 PCI card.
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