Muad'dib
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Post by Muad'dib on Jul 17, 2006 1:11:07 GMT -5
Not to derail the thread, but people on death row, I could understand, but people because they live in a third world country? I'd not be able to agree there.
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melchior1
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Post by melchior1 on Jul 17, 2006 1:11:45 GMT -5
Medical tseting, and pharaceutical companies go hand in hand for me. I really dont care if they test their drugs on poor people in some third world country though. Its not my problem yet. As long as its not causing pain that they could have prevented, I have no problem with testing it on people across the world. Ofcourse, you all know me and my morals, nonexistant. In the movie, the drugs were actually killing people(a small % but enough to make the British government cover it up) If an experimental drug is going to be tested, it should start with animals or death row convicts
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Post by Osama Bin Laden on Jul 17, 2006 1:14:57 GMT -5
Funny, I disagree with testing them on people on death row, but I dont care about testing on people in a third world country.
I disagree with people on death row, becuase their in their last few years of life, let them enjoy them as much as they can in that 4x8 cell without the added worry that the pill they just pop'ed is gonna destroy their intestine, or cuase them to become extremely sick.
The people in a third world country, I really have no argument for, or against it.
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melchior1
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Post by melchior1 on Jul 17, 2006 1:22:26 GMT -5
not trying to change the topic, but I agree with you to some extent.....not all death rowers should be tested on out of humanitie sake, but there are some crimes that revoke a person's humanity
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Post by Vinya on Jul 17, 2006 1:24:58 GMT -5
I love animals. I'd fight for animals rights any day....but only when its legit. Thats why I hate PETA with a passion of a thousand suns....they never have the correct information and they are extremists. They make animal testing out to be nothing but dogs missing half their bodies substituted with metal and whatnot.....they fail to mention most of the testing they refer to is done back in the early 20th century when psychological testing had no ethics; on animals or people. (for instance, when...crap who was it? installed the metal air pump into a rabbits skull so it would blow air in its eye....yeah I'm pretty sure the ASPCA would have something to say about that now). PETA has also made radical statements hoping people die from diseases that have been tested for cures on animals, including cancers, AIDS, and avian bird flu. Anyhoo.....animal testing...especially for cancer. If having animal testing for ALM would have had a cure and my cousin would be alive now, then I have no problem with it. However, theres the patent theory that there is a cure for several types of cancers, but its in the patent stage and so the legality and red tape of it cause it from saving lives....because money is more important I guess but thats another thread I suppose.... human testing I'm fairly...apathetic on. My reasoning is it should NEVER be done against someone's will though. There are plenty of people, however, that willingly offer themselves to science and they can't because of laws preventing human testing. hypocrisy.
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Gold_skywalker
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Post by Gold_skywalker on Jul 17, 2006 4:06:45 GMT -5
Medical tseting, and pharaceutical companies go hand in hand for me. I really dont care if they test their drugs on poor people in some third world country though. Its not my problem yet. As long as its not causing pain that they could have prevented, I have no problem with testing it on people across the world. Ofcourse, you all know me and my morals, nonexistant. No, you have morals. Would you willingly work as a Doctor Mengeles-esque person? Gassing Jews, Gypsies, Catholics, and Gays, or performing sick experiments on them?
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Post by Osama Bin Laden on Jul 17, 2006 8:38:05 GMT -5
I wouldnt ever be in that position, theres no race I hate enough to kill or preform sick experiments on. Though if I was there, Id be killing them as fast, and painlessly as I could. I dont mind seeing people die, but when they die extremely painful deaths, thats when it gets to me.
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Gold_skywalker
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Post by Gold_skywalker on Jul 17, 2006 11:23:36 GMT -5
That's what we call a set of morals, my friend. I toooold yooooouuuu *pokes with a stick*
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Post by Osama Bin Laden on Jul 17, 2006 15:18:35 GMT -5
Everybody has morals, just some people have less, or elastic, morals than others. The only things I look at as wrong at the moment are rape and torture.
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pilaf
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Post by pilaf on Jul 18, 2006 3:35:52 GMT -5
I'm a Straight Edge Vegan, so you'd assume I'd be pretty militant against animal testing, but you'd be wrong. It has many practical applications, and the data retrieved can often be used to save lives. Now I am against blatant abuse of test animals which doesn't pertain to anything relevant, but thankfully such incidents are few and far between.
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