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Post by mastab on Feb 6, 2006 22:07:46 GMT -5
Yes, insurgents never run away from cities that are being bombed.... they have no sense! Everyone knows that! The smart, innocent, America loving ones will flee and not loose their homes, possesions, or anything.
Being serious for a moment here, what do you say we do with people that have lived there their whole lives and don't want to leave? Let them die? Do you propose America spend miilions rebuilding houses or just increase the homeless population of Iraq?
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Post by illicit on Feb 6, 2006 22:33:27 GMT -5
We wouldnt spend any, the Iraqis would, its THEIR war we are fighting, they have to pay for rebuilding their nation. We bomb anyone who doesnt want to leave because they are terrorist insurgents, the insurgents wouldnt leave, or if they did good for them, they can run away, and we can just push them into a little hole.
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Post by mastab on Feb 7, 2006 0:33:11 GMT -5
Your logic is flawed. You say we destroy millions of houses then leave a nation that we are funding entirely to clean it up?
You think that a few bombings would somehow communicate to the non-insurgents that the town is going to blow up and that they should leave? Why wouldn't the insurgents get that message? Why would anyone get that message?
Okay, let's do a little roleplaying here. You are a muslim who has been raised and taught to beleive that Allah hates the Americans and that you should kill them. You do not have any experiences you have in your current life. One day bombs start flying towards your town(and magically don't kill people). What do you do?
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Post by eek on Feb 7, 2006 0:38:11 GMT -5
We wouldnt spend any, the Iraqis would, its THEIR war we are fighting, they have to pay for rebuilding their nation. We bomb anyone who doesnt want to leave because they are terrorist insurgents, the insurgents wouldnt leave, or if they did good for them, they can run away, and we can just push them into a little hole. Their war? We attacked them... right? Or am I missing something here?
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Post by Twitchmonkey on Feb 7, 2006 1:08:29 GMT -5
We wouldnt spend any, the Iraqis would, its THEIR war we are fighting, they have to pay for rebuilding their nation. We bomb anyone who doesnt want to leave because they are terrorist insurgents, the insurgents wouldnt leave, or if they did good for them, they can run away, and we can just push them into a little hole. We made their war. Before the fall of Saddam's regime I'm not aware of there being an insurgency, now that we have occupied, there is one. The part we shouldn't have gotten invloved with was Iraq pre-fall of Saddam.
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Post by thaddius on Feb 7, 2006 1:38:34 GMT -5
[/IMG] Carpet bombing a city causes few civilian casulties? That makes a lot of sense. And who are these "bad guys"? Unless you are talking about all Iraqis as "bad guys" then I think people other than the "bad guys" might get hurt in your city destruction. [img src="http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b245/PowerRangerForum/Emoticons/ i20.photobucket.com/albums/b245/PowerRangerForum/Emoticons/rofl.gif"].gif[/IMG][/quote] We leaflet the area warning them, then a day later carpet bomb them, anyone who stays there is an insurgent.[/quote]Are you totally mad?? One can not simply force people to leave their homes without consequence.
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Post by Twitchmonkey on Feb 7, 2006 1:41:45 GMT -5
Indeed, and have you ever tried to pack up an entire house in a day? Plus then we either have an astronomical homeless rate or a huge expenditure towards housing. The former would lead to a huge increase in the insurgency of those left alive, and the latter would cause more money to be alllocated to the war in Iraq. Very unfulfilling.
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Post by darkhelmet on Feb 7, 2006 15:01:17 GMT -5
Yawm, you seem to forget a few things. One, we already tried doing this. We told everyone to get out of Fallujah, then bombed the out of it, then stormed the city with Marines and Armour. And you know what? Most of the insurgents got out anyway.
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Post by WitchBoy on Feb 7, 2006 15:12:17 GMT -5
Okay, let's try and look at all the potential effects of carpet bombing a city, shall we? First we distribute the leaflets saying to leave the town, most terrorists probably leave and regroup somewhere else. Some civilians probably think the US is just bluffing and don't leave. The Arab people have to try and pack their things and then end up homeless, making the survivors hate us even more. The terrorists recruit more and more people because the UNITED STATES JUST friggin' BOMBED A CIVILIAN CITY. This also leads to more incentive to attack the US. So here we are, thousands of angry homeless civilians, plenty of living terrorists with massive amounts of new recruits, the whole entire Middle East thinks America is insane and evil and eager to kill innocents. People will not back down in fear because we just blew up a city, they will consider this an act of open war against all the Islamic nations and they will fight back. A thousand angry Muslims that lost their homes get into the US and start trying to blow up everything. Your plan is obviously perfect Yawm.
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Post by illicit on Feb 7, 2006 18:54:36 GMT -5
Yawm, you seem to forget a few things. One, we already tried doing this. We told everyone to get out of Fallujah, then bombed the poo out of it, then stormed the city with Marines and Armour. And you know what? Most of the insurgents got out anyway. Not really, we kinda pussyfooted around there, sent in a few soldiers, they got killed, sent in a few more, we shoulda crushed the city.
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Post by darkhelmet on Feb 7, 2006 18:56:19 GMT -5
Yawm, you seem to forget a few things. One, we already tried doing this. We told everyone to get out of Fallujah, then bombed the poo out of it, then stormed the city with Marines and Armour. And you know what? Most of the insurgents got out anyway. Not really, we kinda pussyfooted around there, sent in a few soldiers, they got killed, sent in a few more, we shoulda crushed the city. It was actually one of the biggest offensives since the initial invasion.
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