Post by King Leonidas on Jan 9, 2008 1:33:57 GMT -5
(I listed candidates starting with Democrats, and then Republicans, both in order of candidate's gains in New Hampshire with highest voted on top.)
I'd like to blow the dust off of the debate guild for a poll and discussion on who P.R.O.T.E.S.F thinks should run the dying free world, and talk about the major problems impacting America today that lead you to be swayed in your direction. (Stuff like Immigration, Foreign Policy, Economy, etc.)
Sadly, I'll be less than 3 months too young to vote in my states primaries. I will however be able to vote for the election itself, which doesn't really matter though because I strongly believe that the Democrats will win this year despite whoever gains their candidacy.
The major topic being presented in debates this year that impacts me the most is Foreign Policy. The reason why is simple: I'll be of legal age for the draft soon. And as much as it would be fun to kill extremists with DH, I don't want to die over WMD's that don't exist... if you catch my drift.
Second for me is Economy. The Housing and Oil industries are going berserk; and analysts have warned that this, combined with the high national debt, falling value of the U.S. Dollar, and problems in the stock market could trigger an economic depression. The middle class is also in danger (Especially in my town), college prices are beginning to get rather steep, No Child Left Behind was a failure, and oil prices are now over 100 USD a barrel, and Illegal immigrants from Mexico continue to leak our money into Mexico.
Fourth is Global Warming. I'm pretty certain most of you have seen Al Gore's noble Prize winning movie: An Inconvenient Truth. If you haven't I have a link to an ad for it attached to the movie's title, and I highly advise watching the DVD. Even though Al Gore has a history of shutting out other opinion over his own, it does deliver an important message about our future which I feel should be taken into serious consideration.
The Energy Bill that President Bush recently signed in December will hopefully help the U.S. catch up on breaking away from CO2 emissions and Oil dependency. We're currently one of the worst nations worldwide on making adjustments to prevent global warming, and even if you don't believe in global warming or feel it's unpreventable, a lot of it's preventable causes (namely oil dependency) DO need to be addressed anyway. If I must grow up in an insane world, I'd at the least like it to be an insane world housed on a healthy planet.
Fourth is Immigration. Illegal Immigrants from Mexico are still draining hundreds of thousands of currency in USDs into Mexico which we'll likely end up needing. One fortunate change to this issue is that the U.S. Dollar's falling value along with State law improvements on cracking down on Illegal Immigrants has convinced many of them to return to Mexico. It's an improvement, but in my opinion, it would be too little to late if the winner of '08 doesn't build on that momentum. Many of the families going home have borne children that are technically U.S. citizens because of Illegal Mexicans couples planning births across the border, so even if they are kicked out, there is still damage done.
That's why I feel that we need 1. Tighter border security. 2. More funding and attention to tracking down illegals. 3. Revision or repealing of the 14.th Amendment's definition of becoming a U.S. citizen. 4. Cost of legally entering of the country should be reduced, and penalties for being caught as an illegal should be increased to make doing things by the book more feasible. 5. Deportation needs to be more commonly practiced.
I'd like to point out however that I'm NOT a racist. I'm extreme against illegal immigration because it is ILLEGAL and damaging our country, not because of the ethnicity or nationality of those committing it. Given the opportunity, I'd just as quickly kick an illegal Caucasian across the fence as I would an illegal Hispanic.
The bottom on my list is Heath Care. I believe that Darwin's Law needs to be more commonly allowed to take practice in the world. If you require many milligrams of different expensive pills to survive every morning, then clearly you're overdue at the pearly gates. Besides, even if my stance was to change, this issue will likely be under control by the time it would severely affect me.
I'm not informed enough to make a real opinion on Social Security, but my current stance on it is similar to that of Health care, and no, I'm not on a campaign to destroy ALL seemingly-socialist benefits. My mother has as a matter of fact, been living off of social security for over 20 years because she was the victim of a drunk driving accident.
As for who I support in this year's elections:
I'm not very fond of the candidates presented, but my favorite of them Is Obama.
He's prepared to wizen up our stance on Foreign Policy. He's promised if elected to get our troops out of Iraq as soon as is safely possible and reassign them to areas and tasks that will truly help our national security. He stayed by his decision in Iraq, he hasn't succumbed to Lobbyists, he promises change, and a new kind of politics in Washington, and there's NOTHING worse than our current Washington (except dictatorship).
My second choice would be Ron Paul. He's the eldest candidate, he's the only Republican candidate that opposes the war In Iraq, he's the voice of the framers and a defender of the constitution, and he always votes against anything he considers to be a waste of taxpayer's money.
Third for me is Bill Richardson. He's the only Democrat who's a Governor (and in a State that has no doubt given him common experience on dealing with illegals.). He's the only Democrat who has at any point of time been given the top level security clearance (and thus is the most educated on matters concerning foreign policy), and he's ready to take a different stance on not only the war on Iraq; But the failure of the Iraqi government that has made virtually no movements on their own to repel terrorism and settle disputes between their Kurds, Sunnis, and Shiites.
A last resort would be Mike Huckabee, and that's only because of his flat tax plan that would help everybody except accountants.
As for the candidate I'd least support... I think my new temporary avatar speaks for me. I'd might even be persuaded to vote for a Republican rather than Hillary. (Feel free to label me as a sexist if you must)
So what's your stance on the election of 2008?
edit: Oh, and please do tell if you'll actually be voting or not.
-KL
I'd like to blow the dust off of the debate guild for a poll and discussion on who P.R.O.T.E.S.F thinks should run the dying free world, and talk about the major problems impacting America today that lead you to be swayed in your direction. (Stuff like Immigration, Foreign Policy, Economy, etc.)
Sadly, I'll be less than 3 months too young to vote in my states primaries. I will however be able to vote for the election itself, which doesn't really matter though because I strongly believe that the Democrats will win this year despite whoever gains their candidacy.
The major topic being presented in debates this year that impacts me the most is Foreign Policy. The reason why is simple: I'll be of legal age for the draft soon. And as much as it would be fun to kill extremists with DH, I don't want to die over WMD's that don't exist... if you catch my drift.
Second for me is Economy. The Housing and Oil industries are going berserk; and analysts have warned that this, combined with the high national debt, falling value of the U.S. Dollar, and problems in the stock market could trigger an economic depression. The middle class is also in danger (Especially in my town), college prices are beginning to get rather steep, No Child Left Behind was a failure, and oil prices are now over 100 USD a barrel, and Illegal immigrants from Mexico continue to leak our money into Mexico.
Fourth is Global Warming. I'm pretty certain most of you have seen Al Gore's noble Prize winning movie: An Inconvenient Truth. If you haven't I have a link to an ad for it attached to the movie's title, and I highly advise watching the DVD. Even though Al Gore has a history of shutting out other opinion over his own, it does deliver an important message about our future which I feel should be taken into serious consideration.
The Energy Bill that President Bush recently signed in December will hopefully help the U.S. catch up on breaking away from CO2 emissions and Oil dependency. We're currently one of the worst nations worldwide on making adjustments to prevent global warming, and even if you don't believe in global warming or feel it's unpreventable, a lot of it's preventable causes (namely oil dependency) DO need to be addressed anyway. If I must grow up in an insane world, I'd at the least like it to be an insane world housed on a healthy planet.
Fourth is Immigration. Illegal Immigrants from Mexico are still draining hundreds of thousands of currency in USDs into Mexico which we'll likely end up needing. One fortunate change to this issue is that the U.S. Dollar's falling value along with State law improvements on cracking down on Illegal Immigrants has convinced many of them to return to Mexico. It's an improvement, but in my opinion, it would be too little to late if the winner of '08 doesn't build on that momentum. Many of the families going home have borne children that are technically U.S. citizens because of Illegal Mexicans couples planning births across the border, so even if they are kicked out, there is still damage done.
That's why I feel that we need 1. Tighter border security. 2. More funding and attention to tracking down illegals. 3. Revision or repealing of the 14.th Amendment's definition of becoming a U.S. citizen. 4. Cost of legally entering of the country should be reduced, and penalties for being caught as an illegal should be increased to make doing things by the book more feasible. 5. Deportation needs to be more commonly practiced.
I'd like to point out however that I'm NOT a racist. I'm extreme against illegal immigration because it is ILLEGAL and damaging our country, not because of the ethnicity or nationality of those committing it. Given the opportunity, I'd just as quickly kick an illegal Caucasian across the fence as I would an illegal Hispanic.
The bottom on my list is Heath Care. I believe that Darwin's Law needs to be more commonly allowed to take practice in the world. If you require many milligrams of different expensive pills to survive every morning, then clearly you're overdue at the pearly gates. Besides, even if my stance was to change, this issue will likely be under control by the time it would severely affect me.
I'm not informed enough to make a real opinion on Social Security, but my current stance on it is similar to that of Health care, and no, I'm not on a campaign to destroy ALL seemingly-socialist benefits. My mother has as a matter of fact, been living off of social security for over 20 years because she was the victim of a drunk driving accident.
As for who I support in this year's elections:
I'm not very fond of the candidates presented, but my favorite of them Is Obama.
He's prepared to wizen up our stance on Foreign Policy. He's promised if elected to get our troops out of Iraq as soon as is safely possible and reassign them to areas and tasks that will truly help our national security. He stayed by his decision in Iraq, he hasn't succumbed to Lobbyists, he promises change, and a new kind of politics in Washington, and there's NOTHING worse than our current Washington (except dictatorship).
My second choice would be Ron Paul. He's the eldest candidate, he's the only Republican candidate that opposes the war In Iraq, he's the voice of the framers and a defender of the constitution, and he always votes against anything he considers to be a waste of taxpayer's money.
Third for me is Bill Richardson. He's the only Democrat who's a Governor (and in a State that has no doubt given him common experience on dealing with illegals.). He's the only Democrat who has at any point of time been given the top level security clearance (and thus is the most educated on matters concerning foreign policy), and he's ready to take a different stance on not only the war on Iraq; But the failure of the Iraqi government that has made virtually no movements on their own to repel terrorism and settle disputes between their Kurds, Sunnis, and Shiites.
A last resort would be Mike Huckabee, and that's only because of his flat tax plan that would help everybody except accountants.
As for the candidate I'd least support... I think my new temporary avatar speaks for me. I'd might even be persuaded to vote for a Republican rather than Hillary. (Feel free to label me as a sexist if you must)
So what's your stance on the election of 2008?
edit: Oh, and please do tell if you'll actually be voting or not.
-KL
that voted for Ron Paul? I'd rather go write in.
like withdrawing from the UN and NATO are pretty... nuts, but other than that I agree with most of his social views moreso than any other candidate tbh. At least I didn't vote for Fred Thompson, right? xD
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