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Post by britney on Sept 16, 2005 18:30:17 GMT -5
Do you think the world would be better if everyone was mute? I mean, the most important things are communicated without words anyway... all actions speak louder than words...
The problem with words is that everyone has a different interpretation of what each word means anyways... so you can never actually be 100% sure that someone understands exactly what you are saying (they probably never are)...
Imagine a world with no voices... would it be better? Or worse? Less confusing? or more?
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Post by yawmwen on Sept 16, 2005 18:35:54 GMT -5
More confusing, cuz then people would use sign language, and you can't write while using sign language, plus facing a crown wouldnt do good.
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Post by Samurai Slayer on Sept 16, 2005 18:36:46 GMT -5
I wouldn't be able to stand it. How would you get to know somebody? *poke in the back* *wave* *can't figure out name* *tries to ask out but can't*
*cops can't ask for witnesses to a crime* *criminal gets away*
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Post by britney on Sept 16, 2005 18:38:18 GMT -5
More confusing, cuz then people would use sign language, and you can't write while using sign language, plus facing a crown wouldnt do good. well first off... writing may still be ok... everyone would be mute, but everyone could still write if they needed too (in order to communicate)... But why would people have to resort to sign language? Maybe instead they would refrain from sharing complicated ideas... looking at someone, you can usually tell their basic thoughts (emotions, etc)... isn't that more important (more honest atleast) than the words emanating from their voices? |
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Post by yawmwen on Sept 16, 2005 18:45:58 GMT -5
More confusing, cuz then people would use sign language, and you can't write while using sign language, plus facing a crown wouldnt do good. well first off... writing may still be ok... everyone would be mute, but everyone could still write if they needed too (in order to communicate)... But why would people have to resort to sign language? Maybe instead they would refrain from sharing complicated ideas... looking at someone, you can usually tell their basic thoughts (emotions, etc)... isn't that more important (more honest atleast) than the words emanating from their voices? Nope.....not at all, and its easier to smile than it is to lie(at least for me  ) |
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Post by eek on Sept 16, 2005 18:47:08 GMT -5
If we get different interpretations for the spoken word then written will still be as bad. Speaking is clearer since we can hear their tone as well, whether they're sarcastic, angry etc. Keep the speech!
Edit: Actions speak louder than words, but do they speak as clearly?
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Post by yawmwen on Sept 16, 2005 18:50:36 GMT -5
If we get different interpretations for the spoken word then written will still be as bad. Speaking is clearer since we can hear their tone as well, whether they're sarcastic, angry etc. Keep the speech! Edit: Actions speak louder than words, but do they speak as clearly? Yes, someone can do something, but then not mean it.....but no one can say, do, and mean something, its like, hard ok? |
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Post by britney on Sept 16, 2005 18:55:58 GMT -5
If we get different interpretations for the spoken word then written will still be as bad. Speaking is clearer since we can hear their tone as well, whether they're sarcastic, angry etc. Keep the speech! Edit: Actions speak louder than words, but do they speak as clearly? eek I'm surprised at you. Weren't you saying the other day that monkeys are happier? Well, monkeys communicate physically rather than verbally, they don't share complex ideas ... I mean... I figured you would be all about this sorta thing... |
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Post by yawmwen on Sept 16, 2005 18:59:25 GMT -5
If we get different interpretations for the spoken word then written will still be as bad. Speaking is clearer since we can hear their tone as well, whether they're sarcastic, angry etc. Keep the speech! Edit: Actions speak louder than words, but do they speak as clearly? eek I'm surprised at you. Weren't you saying the other day that monkeys are happier? Well, monkeys communicate physically rather than verbally, they don't share complex ideas ... I mean... I figured you would be all about this sorta thing... Exactly  |
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Post by eek on Sept 16, 2005 19:00:30 GMT -5
If we get different interpretations for the spoken word then written will still be as bad. Speaking is clearer since we can hear their tone as well, whether they're sarcastic, angry etc. Keep the speech! Edit: Actions speak louder than words, but do they speak as clearly? eek I'm surprised at you. Weren't you saying the other day that monkeys are happier? Well, monkeys communicate physically rather than verbally, they don't share complex ideas ... I mean... I figured you would be all about this sorta thing... *shakes head*  I don't think communication is the problem regarding the monkey/human happiness debate. They don't need to share complex ideas so they don't speak. We need to share them so we do. You seem to have given strength to my argument, no? Are you trying to suggest something involving myself and our primate friends?  |
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Post by britney on Sept 16, 2005 19:05:24 GMT -5
eek I'm surprised at you. Weren't you saying the other day that monkeys are happier? Well, monkeys communicate physically rather than verbally, they don't share complex ideas ... I mean... I figured you would be all about this sorta thing... *shakes head* I don't think communication is the problem regarding the monkey/human happiness debate. They don't need to share complex ideas so they don't speak. We need to share them so we do. You seem to have given strength to my argument, no? Are you trying to suggest something involving myself and our primate friends? ? I think verbal communication, when compared to physical communication, is stupid and useless... hence the thread... |
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Post by eek on Sept 16, 2005 19:10:38 GMT -5
*shakes head* I don't think communication is the problem regarding the monkey/human happiness debate. They don't need to share complex ideas so they don't speak. We need to share them so we do. You seem to have given strength to my argument, no? Are you trying to suggest something involving myself and our primate friends? ? I think verbal communication, when compared to physical communication, is stupid and useless... hence the thread... Well, like you said monkeys don't communicate complex ideas to each other, hence the lack of verbal language. We feel the need to express ourselves in more complex ways, therefore we speak to do this more effectively. |
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Post by yawmwen on Sept 16, 2005 19:18:27 GMT -5
Ok, this is getting political, so ----->
so you can discuss this in more detail.
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Post by bendak on Oct 2, 2005 11:43:55 GMT -5
Without words I wouldnt be able to bring SamuraiSlayer back to life.
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Post by TheStranger on Oct 15, 2005 21:02:54 GMT -5
At the stage we go through a shift in evolutionary consciousness where all our thoughts are fluid, and sent at a whim, yes.
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Post by thaddius on Oct 16, 2005 20:00:33 GMT -5
As humans we would find a way to misinterpert body language and actions.
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Post by TheStranger on Oct 16, 2005 20:05:48 GMT -5
As humans we would find a way to misinterpert body language and actions. We already do so with words. |
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Post by thaddius on Oct 16, 2005 20:07:09 GMT -5
As humans we would find a way to misinterpert body language and actions. We already do so with words. Right, so taking away verbal communication would just lead to more problems than it solved. |
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Post by TheStranger on Oct 16, 2005 20:12:08 GMT -5
It would - because at least then we have more to work on. Do you have any friends that you know that ye dont need to talk to each other, but just almost can communicate without words? Well, if humans ever got that on a mass scale, words would be redundant. But, I dont see that happening unless we evolve towards such a thing, for example.
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Post by Raist on Oct 17, 2005 4:19:32 GMT -5
I think the world would be better if some certain people were mute and fingerless  I won't name any names, but that is what I think. Trust me I don't think that much. ( about relevant things that is) |
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Post by TheStranger on Oct 17, 2005 4:23:48 GMT -5
Tut. Fine |
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Post by Muad'dib on Jun 3, 2006 17:51:54 GMT -5
I think the world would be better if some certain people were mute and fingerless  I think thats the general opinion of people here about me these days. I notice threads die at my involvement. Leading to me going back to older threads just to pass time. Anyway, actions speak louder than words, yes. But what of telephone conversations? Also, if the word is the enemy, then I don't see why the written word is made an exception. The written word is far more open to interpretation than when you are face to face with someone discussing something. Besides, if we weren't meant to converse, we wouldn't have a vocal cord. |
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Post by PrettyBurn on Jun 3, 2006 22:19:37 GMT -5
I think the world would be better if some certain people were mute and fingerless I think thats the general opinion of people here about me these days. I notice threads die at my involvement. Leading to me going back to older threads just to pass time. Anyway, actions speak louder than words, yes. But what of telephone conversations? Also, if the word is the enemy, then I don't see why the written word is made an exception. The written word is far more open to interpretation than when you are face to face with someone discussing something. Besides, if we weren't meant to converse, we wouldn't have a vocal cord. ...*confused* |
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Post by Muad'dib on Jun 3, 2006 22:47:28 GMT -5
Huh? I don't think I said anything particularly complicated. Could you point out what part you find difficult? Or are you trying to post something to show that a thread doesn't always die off with my involvement?
If its that, I appreciate the sentiment.
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Post by TheStranger on Jun 4, 2006 17:13:12 GMT -5
Ah. Yes, telephone conversations. That, emails, faxes, oh and going to the airport and seeing what times your flight will be going at.
And teletext.
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