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Post by Britney on Apr 25, 2006 15:51:24 GMT -5
Should the government give financial aid to young people to help them get married and establish homes?
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Post by darkhelmet on Apr 25, 2006 17:36:42 GMT -5
They already do... in the form of tax breaks. Sure, why not?
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Post by ShadowLynx on Apr 25, 2006 18:19:34 GMT -5
Yep...
It helps them to get stabilised...
But not too much for they to depend on the benefit...
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Post by Twitchmonkey on Apr 26, 2006 17:17:41 GMT -5
I don't see why, how does anyone benefit from them getting married but them?
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Post by lulu on Apr 26, 2006 17:41:32 GMT -5
Sure why not? Everyone could use a little help, especially when you need to make AT LEAST $2000 a month to just get by on bills, food and other stuff., (soap, shampoo, toilet paper, toothpaste, dish soap, laundry detergent, etc..).
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Post by thaddius on Apr 26, 2006 20:56:17 GMT -5
Looks like someone is a little obsessed with hygiene... Why not give funancial aid to all young people?
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Post by mastab on Apr 27, 2006 0:22:40 GMT -5
No they should not. What does your relationship have to do with your monetary status? IF anything you should be charged more because you have a larger income. What if you're gay and can't be married to your spouse?
The whole idea of marriage is stupid. What can you do married that you can't do in girlfriend and boyfriend? Marriage is a financial agreement that often costs men (And women in some cases) half of their possesions.
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Post by Ratwar on Apr 27, 2006 10:11:11 GMT -5
IF anything you should be charged more because you have a larger income. Why is that a good reason? The government shouldn't say, "What? You're trying to better yourself?" *kicks citizen in the groan* "That'll teach you to do that!" The way our current tax codes are set up, a lot of married people end up in a higher tax bracket and are penalized for marriage. I think that instead of looking at generalizations about young married couples, the government should go down to the source of the problem and provide aid for those on a purely financial basis, and not base it on something that does always mean that there is a need for aid.
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Post by Twitchmonkey on Apr 27, 2006 18:48:21 GMT -5
Shouldn't they be in a higher tax bracket though? They make more, so they have to pay more, isn't that the setup unless you're really rich and then you don't have to pay very much because you can write everything off? A married couple really doesn't help society at all in their being married, and it's doubtable whether they're really doing much for themselves.
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Post by Hunessai on Apr 27, 2006 22:54:56 GMT -5
Why not make them pay taxes seperately, and ignore marriage? That way there is no penalization or bonus.
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Post by Twitchmonkey on Apr 27, 2006 23:01:37 GMT -5
Why not make them pay taxes seperately, and ignore marriage? That way there is no penalization or bonus. Sounds good to me. Marriage is really just a religious ceremony, I really wish we could kind of remove the religion from the government, but I think that's asking a bit much.
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Post by thaddius on Apr 27, 2006 23:11:27 GMT -5
I wish the human race's addiction to religion were to be broken...
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Post by mastab on Apr 28, 2006 0:25:40 GMT -5
What do you mean? Religion is great! Without it we would have to ask questions like "why are we here" and think of real answers. THINK!!! Thinking is just unamerican. Let's just go with "God did it, end of story."
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Post by Twitchmonkey on Apr 28, 2006 0:29:22 GMT -5
I prefer the "Simpsons did it" explanation.
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Post by mastab on Apr 28, 2006 0:36:13 GMT -5
And that is why you are going to Oblivion to dirty dance with Dagoth Ur.
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Post by Twitchmonkey on Apr 28, 2006 0:37:14 GMT -5
And that is why you are going to Oblivion to dirty dance with Dagoth Ur. I didn't think it was my birthday.
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Post by mastab on May 1, 2006 18:52:23 GMT -5
IF anything you should be charged more because you have a larger income. Why is that a good reason? The government shouldn't say, "What? You're trying to better yourself?" *kicks citizen in the groan* "That'll teach you to do that!" The way our current tax codes are set up, a lot of married people end up in a higher tax bracket and are penalized for marriage. I think that instead of looking at generalizations about young married couples, the government should go down to the source of the problem and provide aid for those on a purely financial basis, and not base it on something that does always mean that there is a need for aid. Better themselves? How so? They could do anything they do married single. What if they're gay and can't marry their partner? Are they not alowed to 'better themselves?' The way I understand it is that married couples get tax cuts, not higher taxes.
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Post by mastab on May 1, 2006 18:54:05 GMT -5
And that is why you are going to Oblivion to dirty dance with Dagoth Ur. I didn't think it was my birthday. Just like you didn't think I had pics of you passed out drunk in a gutter on my comp.
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Post by Ratwar on May 4, 2006 13:41:34 GMT -5
Why is that a good reason? The government shouldn't say, "What? You're trying to better yourself?" *kicks citizen in the groan* "That'll teach you to do that!" The way our current tax codes are set up, a lot of married people end up in a higher tax bracket and are penalized for marriage. I think that instead of looking at generalizations about young married couples, the government should go down to the source of the problem and provide aid for those on a purely financial basis, and not base it on something that does always mean that there is a need for aid. Better themselves? How so? They could do anything they do married single. What if they're gay and can't marry their partner? Are they not alowed to 'better themselves?' The way I understand it is that married couples get tax cuts, not higher taxes. The quote I was responding to was not about marriage. It was about taxing people more do to a higher income.
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Post by darkhelmet on May 7, 2006 10:40:05 GMT -5
Why is that a good reason? The government shouldn't say, "What? You're trying to better yourself?" *kicks citizen in the groan* "That'll teach you to do that!" The way our current tax codes are set up, a lot of married people end up in a higher tax bracket and are penalized for marriage. I think that instead of looking at generalizations about young married couples, the government should go down to the source of the problem and provide aid for those on a purely financial basis, and not base it on something that does always mean that there is a need for aid. Better themselves? How so? They could do anything they do married single. What if they're gay and can't marry their partner? Are they not alowed to 'better themselves?' The way I understand it is that married couples get tax cuts, not higher taxes. Occasionally, when they combine their incomes, their tax bracket is bumped up.
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