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Post by Osama Bin Laden on Jul 10, 2006 8:55:46 GMT -5
Rend is the guy in Upper Blackrock Spire (UBRS.) He rides a dragon at the begining of the fight, and then he dismounts and you have to kill him and the dragon. His names Warcheif Rend Blackbeard I beleive.
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Post by Slipper Eater on Jul 10, 2006 9:12:24 GMT -5
Ffft.
How was I meant to know?
And on topic, why the hell are there NO decent one handed maces? /annoyed
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Post by Osama Bin Laden on Jul 10, 2006 9:57:58 GMT -5
There are, just not below 19. And the ones that are level req 17,18,19, are overpriced on AH becuase their "twink" items. Twinks are people that stay at level 19, 29, 39 or 49, get the best gear for their levels, and just do the BG's ( Battlegrounds.)
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Post by ExtraCheeZ on Jul 10, 2006 10:58:24 GMT -5
Rend is the guy in Upper Blackrock Spire (UBRS.) He rides a dragon at the begining of the fight, and then he dismounts and you have to kill him and the dragon. His names Warcheif Rend Blackbeard I beleive. Oh yeah, Ive probably seen him then. Only done ubrs once though. All I remember is the room where all these dragons spawn 3 headed beast and kiting drakk.
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Post by Osama Bin Laden on Jul 10, 2006 21:19:34 GMT -5
Half-way to 60, and debating on whether to get revered WSG, or exalted AV first.
Oh, and made it to honoured AV just a few minutes ago.
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Post by ExtraCheeZ on Jul 11, 2006 5:34:59 GMT -5
If you decide to get revered with WSG I would stay 59 untill you do it, 60 WSG and AB is so boring, basicaly EVERY horde has tier armor and you cant do any damage to them and they kill you in one or two hits. Unless your in a raid group, then go for your life . But as for AV, I love it, I'm half way to revered now and I use the special food and water (and the awsome arrows) all the time. Best of all you dont need full tier to kick .
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Post by WitchBoy on Jul 11, 2006 7:55:24 GMT -5
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Post by Osama Bin Laden on Jul 11, 2006 8:52:02 GMT -5
WSG isnt something you play alone. You have to group in it, or atleast us general to give orders, and people have to listen to them. And Im not staying 59 for anything except money in real life. And besides, all my friends are 60, so I can BG with them in half a level! And AV doesnt have much for a sword rogue. I desperatly need a new weapon. Im using a 49 BoE epic, and Thrash Blade! Its not like I cant go get exalted with AV after I get revered WSG.' Updated my profile. ctprofiles.net/2088806
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Post by ExtraCheeZ on Jul 11, 2006 11:22:26 GMT -5
Hehe, trust me, you will understand when you hit 60. When you hit 60, all that matters is equipment. Teamwork and skill only comes into play when both sides are equal in armor and so far I havent seen that happen. The horde is usualy the more composed side, with less casuals and more hardcore players... My updated: ctprofiles.net/1897078I love that helm .
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Post by Osama Bin Laden on Jul 11, 2006 11:31:05 GMT -5
Skill, and team work, are still factor's, just not as much as they should be. Skill counts for 25% of the outcome, thats my estimate.
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Post by ExtraCheeZ on Jul 11, 2006 20:35:34 GMT -5
Look at the wow forums, I bet the most talked about subject is the fact that non-raiders dont get a fair chance in PVP. No amount of skill will ever help you agaisnt a hunter with 5000 health who can kill you with a aimed shot crit and a multishot crit... unless that hunter is terrible. Unfortunately, people with full tier seem to be good because they have experience. I'm not saying the second you get into WSG your going to be dead meat, I'm just saying when you look at the rest of your team and they are all in blues and greens cept for 1 or 2 raiders, you will know that you are scrued.
1 example, there was 4 raiders that stole our flag, 9 of our guys literaly hung off the raiders constantly fireing them and hitting the flag carrier with slowing spells (not to mention damage) but the shaman kept on healing them all the way to the horde base. 9 people couldnt kill 4. In the 59 bracket 9v4 was such an easy win you would be lucky if the game lasted 5 minutes.
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Post by Osama Bin Laden on Jul 11, 2006 20:52:39 GMT -5
I see. Did more than one or two of you try to kill the healer first so that the other could take out the bearer without him being healed? Same things happened to me a billion times, but no one want to attack the healers with me. I got the offhand in the Dal'Rend weapon set just now! Putting firey on it. www.thottbot.com/?set=41 Going for the mainhand with my guild tonight.
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Post by ExtraCheeZ on Jul 11, 2006 21:44:43 GMT -5
Have you ever vs a shaman with full tier on AV? Me and a mage stood there firing off our best attacks and he just stood there healing... and healing... and healing... and healing... untill finaly he cast that lighting spell a few times which crit me +1300 on average and I died. Then he was almost about to finish off the mage but backup came.
There were people attacking the shaman(might have been more than one, but all I could see was a blur of alliance as I was trying to slow the flag carrier) but as I said, damaging anything in full tier when your entire side is wearing crap is harder said then done. All I saw on the horde were healing spells being cast left right and center, I've never seen anything get away with that on under 60 bgs, 9v4 would have been a massacure.
All I can say is wait untill you 60 bg and you verse a whole side of epiced horde and your unfortunate enough not to have over half your team in epics.
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Post by Osama Bin Laden on Jul 12, 2006 2:23:12 GMT -5
Meh, Im a rogue, theres not a giant difference in DPS between a rogue with great weapons and only okay gear vs. a teir 1/2 rogue, if you spec right. I know how it feels to be completely destroyed though. Watch a rogue try to fight a warrior, or a mage, its sad. On another note, Im 3 bars away from 60, and helping some members of my guild farm the UBRS key. Mage got d/c'ed and we had no AoE by the part with the spiders in LBRS. EDIT: Typo's. Its so damn late!
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Post by ExtraCheeZ on Jul 12, 2006 2:38:49 GMT -5
Damn. I still dissagree though, when I play rogues of the same... gear type usualy 1 stun lock will reduce half my health (I'm just usaing that as an example ) but with a full tiered rogue its about 4 hits, they dont even bother stunlocking me or gouge or anything its just "stab stab stab" and I'm gone . I didnt think tier mattered either pre-60 wsg, because I used to play AV and I do awsome in there, but tier is the "I.W.I.N." Button.
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Post by Osama Bin Laden on Jul 12, 2006 10:47:38 GMT -5
Gear certainly can be, most of the time is, the I.W.I.N. button. Look what I found in AV! thottbot.com/?i=40342Made it to 60 a few hours ago! Yay! WSG pop's so much faster!
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Post by WitchBoy on Jul 12, 2006 18:14:47 GMT -5
On Cenarion Circle forums there are frequent videos of Naked PvP teams (the only one wearing armor was the flag carrier) beating tier 1-2 PuG groups by tactics.
You couldn't kill people in that 4:9 battle because you didn't put people on the Shaman. When I'm fighting any group worth their weight the second they see me glowing green with a healing wave spell I have 2-4 people on me, because I can effectively negate the damage of that many. Going after healers is one of the singlemost fundamentals of PeeVeePee.
Gear factors in, but ultimately all battlegrounds are a game of control.
Also, Christ, another Hunter in Shadowcraft. I'll quote a post I made on the realm forums towards my friend Trilin:
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Post by ExtraCheeZ on Jul 12, 2006 21:50:55 GMT -5
On Cenarion Circle forums there are frequent videos of Naked PvP teams (the only one wearing armor was the flag carrier) beating tier 1-2 PuG groups by tactics. You couldn't kill people in that 4:9 battle because you didn't put people on the Shaman. When I'm fighting any group worth their weight the second they see me glowing green with a healing wave spell I have 2-4 people on me, because I can effectively negate the damage of that many. Going after healers is one of the singlemost fundamentals of PeeVeePee. I can assure you the shaman was being attacked, there could have been 2 for all I remember, but 4:9 in any case is ot fair in any case.
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Post by WitchBoy on Jul 13, 2006 0:18:37 GMT -5
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Hehe, I just say that because I know a bunch of other hunters with that helm, and it amuses me.
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Post by Osama Bin Laden on Jul 13, 2006 1:21:26 GMT -5
I saw MC just now! Was getting attuned with my guild, and we decided to run in and check it out. Preist mindvisioned to the first boss and took screenies. Then we rushed and died! ;D
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Post by mastab on Jul 13, 2006 1:59:19 GMT -5
Has anyone ever been to the secret areas? I've heard you get banned for it, but it's never happened to me and I poke around where I shouldn't be all the time. Let's see.... I've been to the Island of the Lost Dwarven Farmers, the ocean that the Tram is surrounded by, the IF Airstrip, the Wetlands Village, Mount IF, and the IF lava pits(a glitch where you can jump in and not die).
Right now I'm working on going into Old Ironforge. In the beta, Old Ironforge was accesible. Lore-wise it was kept as a museum to Ironforge's history. The ancestral graves of the Ironforge Kings is there, the Iron Forge Ironforge is named after is there, and the first throne of Ironforge is there. It was a simply beautiful area(I've seen pics), so beautfiul that it lagged people's comps to look at it that they closed it off.
There are three ways in which I've been looking into recently. In the king of IF's room(the current one), when you walk in there are two sealed doors to your left and right. Behind those are pathways into Old IF(that's confirmed). The first way is to be in a duel next to one and get sheeped - with luck the sheep will walk through the door. The sedcond way is for hunters. You have to walk next to them till your pet goes through, then use eyes of the beast. I haven't been able to get this to work. The third way is to jump into the bottomless pit at either the IF airstrip or Wetlands village while using a noggenfogger and a speed booster and jump till you go underwater. Then Old IF should be visible and you just swim to it.
But be warned, the bottomless pits can be.... dangerous. If you miss the water you will fall and hit an invisible floor. If you go back in with your spirit, it will fall past your corpse and continue to float into nothingness. You don't fall straight down, you can walk under zones. The only way out is to fall into the ocean and swim up.
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Post by Osama Bin Laden on Jul 13, 2006 9:30:45 GMT -5
Ive been to Hyjal, the place beside Winterspring. It was pretty cool. There was this huge tree with that evil guys skeleton, Achimonde, I think. And below the tree there was this really deep pool of water. Im undead and I couldnt make it to the bottom without almost drowning!
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Post by WitchBoy on Jul 13, 2006 10:06:36 GMT -5
I've been to the Dwarven farm off the side of the ocean near Hinterlands and the little abandonded inn that's nestled on the west border of the eastern kingdom is you're swimming from Wetlands to Westfall.
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Post by mastab on Jul 13, 2006 23:53:31 GMT -5
Ive been to Hyjal, the place beside Winterspring. It was pretty cool. There was this huge tree with that evil guys skeleton, Achimonde, I think. And below the tree there was this really deep pool of water. Im undead and I couldnt make it to the bottom without almost drowning! Where's Hyjal? I've heard of it, but never been. Also I entered the Caverns of Time today. By far the coolest instance.
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Post by Osama Bin Laden on Jul 14, 2006 0:10:21 GMT -5
Yea, the Caverns of Time were pretty cool. Cant wait till they release them as a dungeoun. Hyjal is west of Winterspring.
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