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Post by Osama Bin Laden on May 17, 2006 0:27:53 GMT -5
After watching V for Vendetta, and having heard rumors about the Pentagon being faked, and now this, Im kinda worried about this thing. I dont think the Twin Towers were faked, but Im not sure about the Pentagon anymore.
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Post by lulu on May 17, 2006 11:19:44 GMT -5
Well, I don't refuse... I guess I just don't want to. It means everything, including the pretext for invading Afghanistan (which I thought was right), was a lie... and that's... that's pretty big. A pretext? Attila the hun needed a pretext to invade Rome. He didn't need to invade Rome. His people lived almost a thousand miles away. He used the emperor's sister as a pretext to invade. It's not a justifable pretext if you are LOOKING FOR a pretext.
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Post by Britney on May 17, 2006 15:31:41 GMT -5
After watching V for Vendetta, and having heard rumors about the Pentagon being faked, and now this, Im kinda worried about this thing. I dont think the Twin Towers were faked, but Im not sure about the Pentagon anymore. This just in: www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/16/pentagon.video/index.html
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Post by Osama Bin Laden on May 17, 2006 22:06:13 GMT -5
After watching V for Vendetta, and having heard rumors about the Pentagon being faked, and now this, Im kinda worried about this thing. I dont think the Twin Towers were faked, but Im not sure about the Pentagon anymore. This just in: www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/16/pentagon.video/index.htmlThe videos wont play for me.
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Post by Ratwar on May 17, 2006 22:38:18 GMT -5
Call me an idiot, call me naive, but I refuse to believe that George W. Bush orchestrated the 9/11 attacks. But if he did... he'd better pay. And more than just an impeachment. Lying to a jury got Clinton an impeachment; lying to the country, and the world, ought to warrant a nice stay in prison. Why do you refuse to believe? I'm not a bush hater, I dont run around like the average person saying "omg bush suxorz, wat teh noob". But if you think its impossible for this attack to be orchestrated by your own government then your not and idiot and your not nieve, your brainwashed. Now I'm not saying that they did orchestrate it because frankly there isnt a smoking gun to prove it, but there is a possibilty it happened no matter how big or small, there still remains a possiblity. A nice stay in prison? If this could be proven, the key players of the bush government would be put on death row for high treason... Yes, of course, it is a possiblility that tomorrow we will all die. It is just a very small possiblity. So small in fact that it's existance is unlikely. We know that three planes hit buildings occupied by US citizens. We know that other US citizens were aboard these planes. We also know that all of these people died. According to engineers that studied the crash, we know that the planes were capable of taking down those buildings. Is it possible that there is some grand conspiracy reaching to the highest levels of government power? Sure, but let's face it, it is far more likely to be the work of terrorists than 100s of government employees.
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Post by ExtraCheeZ on May 18, 2006 19:56:49 GMT -5
Why do you refuse to believe? I'm not a bush hater, I dont run around like the average person saying "omg bush suxorz, wat teh noob". But if you think its impossible for this attack to be orchestrated by your own government then your not and idiot and your not nieve, your brainwashed. Now I'm not saying that they did orchestrate it because frankly there isnt a smoking gun to prove it, but there is a possibilty it happened no matter how big or small, there still remains a possiblity. A nice stay in prison? If this could be proven, the key players of the bush government would be put on death row for high treason... Yes, of course, it is a possiblility that tomorrow we will all die. It is just a very small possiblity. So small in fact that it's existance is unlikely. We know that three planes hit buildings occupied by US citizens. We know that other US citizens were aboard these planes. We also know that all of these people died. According to engineers that studied the crash, we know that the planes were capable of taking down those buildings. Is it possible that there is some grand conspiracy reaching to the highest levels of government power? Sure, but let's face it, it is far more likely to be the work of terrorists than 100s of government employees. Yup .
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Post by mastab on May 18, 2006 23:34:15 GMT -5
Why do you refuse to believe? I'm not a bush hater, I dont run around like the average person saying "omg bush suxorz, wat teh noob". But if you think its impossible for this attack to be orchestrated by your own government then your not and idiot and your not nieve, your brainwashed. Now I'm not saying that they did orchestrate it because frankly there isnt a smoking gun to prove it, but there is a possibilty it happened no matter how big or small, there still remains a possiblity. A nice stay in prison? If this could be proven, the key players of the bush government would be put on death row for high treason... Yes, of course, it is a possiblility that tomorrow we will all die. It is just a very small possiblity. So small in fact that it's existance is unlikely. We know that three planes hit buildings occupied by US citizens. We know that other US citizens were aboard these planes. We also know that all of these people died. According to engineers that studied the crash, we know that the planes were capable of taking down those buildings. Is it possible that there is some grand conspiracy reaching to the highest levels of government power? Sure, but let's face it, it is far more likely to be the work of terrorists than 100s of government employees. The plane's passengers could be not real and their families hired by the government, the government could have taken everyone on those planes and 'dissappeared' them, or the government could have been willing to kill its own citizens. Maybe there really were terrorists, hired by the government(or their superiors hired). The technicians could be hired or threatened by the government. In fact, you seem to confident that our government isn't run by evil demons sent by God Satan. You must be a hired secret government agent as well, sent to increase morale. DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER, WE ARE THE DEAD!
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Post by Ratwar on May 19, 2006 0:31:07 GMT -5
Yes, of course, it is a possiblility that tomorrow we will all die. It is just a very small possiblity. So small in fact that it's existance is unlikely. We know that three planes hit buildings occupied by US citizens. We know that other US citizens were aboard these planes. We also know that all of these people died. According to engineers that studied the crash, we know that the planes were capable of taking down those buildings. Is it possible that there is some grand conspiracy reaching to the highest levels of government power? Sure, but let's face it, it is far more likely to be the work of terrorists than 100s of government employees. The plane's passengers could be not real and their families hired by the government, the government could have taken everyone on those planes and 'dissappeared' them, or the government could have been willing to kill its own citizens. Maybe there really were terrorists, hired by the government(or their superiors hired). The technicians could be hired or threatened by the government. In fact, you seem to confident that our government isn't run by evil demons sent by God Satan. You must be a hired secret government agent as well, sent to increase morale. DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER, WE ARE THE DEAD! Well, , my secret is so out now... You see, the problem is that you have way to many people involved to pull this thing off without someone talking. So far, nobody is talking. Therefore, the chances of all this happening are very slim.
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Post by darkhelmet on May 19, 2006 8:22:09 GMT -5
I think it's certainly possible, like Ratwar, and Devil696 said, that the Pentagon was faked. Maybe the C.I.A. or N.S.A. got wind of it, and launched a missile, or plane, whatever. Plausible? Not really.
One thing that bugs me about this is that everyone who is a proponent of these videos claims that people who dismiss them aren't being "open-minded". Which is stupid, since it's really just the anti-American crowd jumping on the bandwagon. "Loose Change", "Pentagon Strike"; all these videos have the same footage.
Same "eyewitness accounts", same arguments... and then what really pisses me off is some kid, who already has admitted he doesn't know where Iraq is/that there is a war there, claims to know the chemical properties, and differences, between the compounds in jet fuel, and the elements in cordite. I mean, that's fuckin' bull.
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Post by morty14 on May 19, 2006 10:27:39 GMT -5
and then what really pisses me off is some kid, who already has admitted he doesn't know where Iraq is/that there is a war there, claims to know the chemical properties, and differences, between the compounds in jet fuel, and the elements in cordite. I mean, that's fuckin' bull. Umm, so Geography and Current Events knowledge are now a prerequisite to Science knowledge? That'll mess with our schools a bit I would think...
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Post by darkhelmet on May 19, 2006 10:37:10 GMT -5
and then what really pisses me off is some kid, who already has admitted he doesn't know where Iraq is/that there is a war there, claims to know the chemical properties, and differences, between the compounds in jet fuel, and the elements in cordite. I mean, that's fuckin' bull. Umm, so Geography and Current Events knowledge are now a prerequisite to Science knowledge? That'll mess with our schools a bit I would think... No, I was actually referring to someone who posted on TESF. Just generally being misinformed, and passing off facts you found on some website as your own. I don't claim to know the inner workings of the White House, the properties of Jet fuel, or whatever.
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Post by morty14 on May 19, 2006 13:49:13 GMT -5
Oh ok. Nevermind then.
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Post by darkhelmet on May 19, 2006 13:52:57 GMT -5
Oh ok. Nevermind then. Yeah, I only make uninformed generalizations when I have a conveniant example. ;D
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