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Post by mastab on Feb 5, 2006 2:03:09 GMT -5
You still have no proved the statistics. This country was founded on the belief of defending minorities and we should not abandon the minorities now.
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Post by illicit on Feb 5, 2006 2:05:23 GMT -5
You still have no proved the statistics. This country was founded on the belief of defending minorities and we should not abandon the minorities now. Actually it was about defending the MAJORITY, thats why they wanted voting and representation.
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Post by mastab on Feb 5, 2006 2:07:36 GMT -5
The migrants that traveled here were fleeing European persecution and prosecution for being in the incorrect religion that the majority was in.
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Post by illicit on Feb 5, 2006 2:10:26 GMT -5
The migrants that traveled here were fleeing European persecution and prosecution for being in the incorrect religion that the majority was in. Thats only New England, the southern colonies were there to make a profit from agriculture.
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Post by darkhelmet on Feb 5, 2006 2:30:34 GMT -5
Yawm... you triple posted twice in this thread. Try not to, ok? I'd guess 70% Christian. But I don't know. Personally, regarding the Pledge, I really don't care. I think I said once "Public schools are just like Hitler Youth, only with a lot less funding" given the flag waving, and the pledge (a JOKE people, in case you missed it). But it isn't enforced much, and I don't mind it.
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Post by WitchBoy on Feb 5, 2006 2:38:17 GMT -5
So should we reinstate slavery again because that's the way things were?
Anyway, it isn't about defending the MAJORITY because the MAJORITY doesn't NEED to be DEFENDED. The majority is always in power in a democracy and may or may not try to subvert the minority.
The government should exist to protect all it's people, not to exercise favoritism towards various parties, this is a basic ideal of America. The government should focus on protecting the rights of all citizens, the moment it begins to pass laws concerning certain groups it descends into tyranny.
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Post by Hunessai on Feb 5, 2006 13:29:37 GMT -5
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Post by illicit on Feb 6, 2006 0:31:22 GMT -5
So should we reinstate slavery again because that's the way things were? Anyway, it isn't about defending the MAJORITY because the MAJORITY doesn't NEED to be DEFENDED. The majority is always in power in a democracy and may or may not try to subvert the minority. The government should exist to protect all it's people, not to exercise favoritism towards various parties, this is a basic ideal of America. The government should focus on protecting the rights of all citizens, the moment it begins to pass laws concerning certain groups it descends into tyranny. Uhhh, last time I checked we arnt a democracy *looks outside* nope, not yet.
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Post by mastab on Feb 6, 2006 0:51:18 GMT -5
..............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................dear lord. Look up democracy and then tell me if it fits our country. We don't have to have a democratic leader to be a democracy, and our official title B.S. means nothing of the policies that go on within our country. Officially North Korea is a Democratic People's Republic. Think about that.
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Post by ExtraCheeZ on Feb 6, 2006 1:34:22 GMT -5
Americas not a democracy?
Wow...
Just wow...
I mean, seriously... you dont hear that everyday...
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Post by darkhelmet on Feb 6, 2006 15:35:39 GMT -5
So should we reinstate slavery again because that's the way things were? Anyway, it isn't about defending the MAJORITY because the MAJORITY doesn't NEED to be DEFENDED. The majority is always in power in a democracy and may or may not try to subvert the minority. The government should exist to protect all it's people, not to exercise favoritism towards various parties, this is a basic ideal of America. The government should focus on protecting the rights of all citizens, the moment it begins to pass laws concerning certain groups it descends into tyranny. Uhhh, last time I checked we arnt a democracy *looks outside* nope, not yet. We are a Democratic Republic, a form of democracy. Not a pure one, but a representitive one, which is almost as good.
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Post by illicit on Feb 6, 2006 21:57:44 GMT -5
Americas not a democracy? Wow... Just wow... I mean, seriously... you dont hear that everyday... That my friend is because we are brainwashed into thinking the people actually HAVE power! I watch the news, I see how this works, in the case of a democracy the people hold power to vote on EVERY law in the nation, they represent themself, a republic is where we have representitives do it mostly for us, where I am we only get to vote how much more money the government will put into schools(damn liberals).
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Post by mastab on Feb 6, 2006 22:00:21 GMT -5
We are mostly a representative democracy. You are thinking of the very first forms of the governments(The Roman Republic and the Greek Democracy). Governments evolve.
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Post by illicit on Feb 6, 2006 22:05:13 GMT -5
We are mostly a representative democracy. You are thinking of the very first forms of the governments(The Roman Republic and the Greek Democracy). Governments evolve. Well, we are more republic then democracy....
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Post by mastab on Feb 6, 2006 22:08:16 GMT -5
Support that statement.
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Post by illicit on Feb 6, 2006 22:12:45 GMT -5
You dont need me to support it because I already have and if you know anything about the branchs of government you would know that it is more republic.
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Post by mastab on Feb 6, 2006 22:16:07 GMT -5
The people control the government. The people vote. The people's opinion controls who we impeach, what policies we take, who we declare war on, etc. We are a democracy.
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Post by illicit on Feb 6, 2006 22:30:56 GMT -5
The people control the government. The people vote. The people's opinion controls who we impeach, what policies we take, who we declare war on, etc. We are a democracy. Then why did we go to war when we didnt have full support?! Why didnt we impeach bush when he only had "40" percent support?! Why is the patriot act resigned?! My god you just made a bigger contradiction to yourself than I could ever make.
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Post by mastab on Feb 7, 2006 0:36:15 GMT -5
He went to war without telling the public, and although many were against the war it was already too late to stop it. He only has 30% approval and he has not been impeached because there is no solid evidence of his crimes and misdeeds(hate from the public alone won't do it). The patriot act was resigned because no one liked it.
I made no contradiction, and you, as well as any human with the ability to talk, could make much larger.
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Post by Twitchmonkey on Feb 7, 2006 1:06:01 GMT -5
You really shouldn't make such claims without the knowledge to back them up, Illicit. You cannot impeach a president for a low apporval rating, only for the wrongful actions that resulted in that rating.
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Post by Muad'dib on Feb 7, 2006 4:36:27 GMT -5
Hm, I must admit, that info is new to me. But I still think if it were a wise system, a president should be impeached if his approval rating is bad, not just if they have adulterous affairs.
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Post by darkhelmet on Feb 7, 2006 16:32:35 GMT -5
Uhhh, last time I checked we arnt a democracy *looks outside* nope, not yet. We are a Democratic Republic, a form of democracy. Not a pure one, but a representitive one, which is almost as good. I shouldn't have to quote myself. But whatever. It answers the question.
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Post by illicit on Feb 7, 2006 18:49:34 GMT -5
You really shouldn't make such claims without the knowledge to back them up, Illicit. You cannot impeach a president for a low apporval rating, only for the wrongful actions that resulted in that rating. I used his contradiction twitch, he said our OPINIONS say who is IMPEACHED, who we go to WAR with, all those things, you cant deny you said it.
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Post by mastab on Feb 7, 2006 19:00:20 GMT -5
You misunderstood that. Let's take Nixon for an example. He commited a crime. The public wanted him to pay the consequences so the congree voted for him to be impeached. Members of congress have only one chief amibiton: to gain votes. IF they did something unpopular they would loose votes.
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Post by illicit on Feb 7, 2006 19:06:29 GMT -5
You misunderstood that. Let's take Nixon for an example. He commited a crime. The public wanted him to pay the consequences so the congree voted for him to be impeached. Members of congress have only one chief amibiton: to gain votes. IF they did something unpopular they would loose votes. Then why did bush win 04?
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