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Post by Ratwar on Jan 10, 2006 10:32:12 GMT -5
Stop trying to categorize people. Liberals and conservatives are really the same thing, people. The more that we divid ideas into either liberal or conservative, the more time we waste on deciding if the idea is good or not. A person, or an idea should be evaluated on it's own merit, not one which side brought it up.
Bush is not a conservative. Kerry... well, Kerry was a liberal.
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Post by ExtraCheeZ on Jan 10, 2006 17:59:20 GMT -5
Not being able to anomiously annoy people on the internet is like not being about to use a football in a game of football.
I'm going to start flaming the president and putting my real name just so its legal... thatll show him.
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Post by Hunessai on Jan 10, 2006 18:26:11 GMT -5
I answer no to all of those, so what am I? Economy: Right. Government: Small. That's my guess. Stop trying to categorize people. Liberals and conservatives are really the same thing, people. A person, or an idea should be evaluated on it's own merit, not one which side brought it up. The parties catagorize themselves. If you disagree with an aspect of the party, you aren't really in that party- you're Independent. A person, or an idea should be evaluated on it's own merit, not one which side brought it up. I agree.
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Post by illicit on Jan 10, 2006 19:26:05 GMT -5
So then I would be independent?
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Post by mastab on Jan 13, 2006 21:57:37 GMT -5
That's up to you to decide.
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Post by illicit on Jan 13, 2006 22:07:16 GMT -5
That's up to you to decide. I guess im Anarchist as I know government doesnt work on a large scale, but I support Republicans over Democrats.
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Post by mastab on Jan 13, 2006 22:09:11 GMT -5
Government does work on a large scale, and has done so for thousands of years. With no government society would collapse and we would go back to hunting and gathering. We would have no civilization.
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Post by illicit on Jan 13, 2006 22:12:12 GMT -5
Government does work on a large scale, and has done so for thousands of years. With no government society would collapse and we would go back to hunting and gathering. We would have no civilization. It hasnt worked though, governments cardinal rule is to protect the people, but it has failed to do that, especially democracy, which takes so much taxes just to keep senators happy.
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Post by mastab on Jan 13, 2006 22:14:46 GMT -5
How have governments failed to protect the people? Taxes are no higher with democrats than they are with republicans.
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Post by Hunessai on Jan 13, 2006 22:16:51 GMT -5
Libertarianism is right-wing Anarchism, Yawmwen.
Let's get back on topic.
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Post by illicit on Jan 13, 2006 22:19:27 GMT -5
How have governments failed to protect the people? Taxes are no higher with democrats than they are with republicans. Democrats believe in higher taxes. Also, I think its stupid that its illegal to annoy on the internet. What next? It is illegal to play games with lots of blood?
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Post by Ratwar on Jan 13, 2006 22:58:38 GMT -5
How have governments failed to protect the people? Taxes are no higher with democrats than they are with republicans. Democrats believe in higher taxes. Actually, Former President Bush raised taxes when he was in office... Democrats don't believe in higher taxes, they believe in something called a balanced budget...
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Post by illicit on Jan 13, 2006 23:12:48 GMT -5
Democrats believe in higher taxes. Actually, Former President Bush raised taxes when he was in office... Democrats don't believe in higher taxes, they believe in something called a balanced budget... Thats why they raise taxes?
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Post by Ratwar on Jan 13, 2006 23:22:40 GMT -5
Actually, Former President Bush raised taxes when he was in office... Democrats don't believe in higher taxes, they believe in something called a balanced budget... Thats why they raise taxes? No, they raise taxes because Jimmy Carter wanted some land to grow peanuts on.
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Post by illicit on Jan 14, 2006 22:15:15 GMT -5
Thats why they raise taxes? No, they raise taxes because Jimmy Carter wanted some land to grow peanuts on. They raise taxes so they can have bigger pockets, a third mansion.
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Post by mastab on Jan 14, 2006 22:59:17 GMT -5
How have governments failed to protect the people? Taxes are no higher with democrats than they are with republicans. Democrats believe in higher taxes. Also, I think its stupid that its illegal to annoy on the internet. What next? It is illegal to play games with lots of blood? Democrats believe in no such thing. I think you got that idea from hearing the democrat belief that the rich should be taxed highly. That is not the same thing.
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Post by mastab on Jan 14, 2006 23:02:13 GMT -5
The democrat stereotype is much poorer than the republican stereotype. Republicans are affiliated with large businesses, where demorats are with small ones. Large ones make more money.
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Post by illicit on Jan 14, 2006 23:44:45 GMT -5
Democrats believe in higher taxes. Also, I think its stupid that its illegal to annoy on the internet. What next? It is illegal to play games with lots of blood? Democrats believe in no such thing. I think you got that idea from hearing the democrat belief that the rich should be taxed highly. That is not the same thing. Yea they do, they believe in higher healthcare and welfare which means higher taxes and everyone knows about 0.0000000000000001% of taxes go to what its intended for.
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Post by Hunessai on Jan 14, 2006 23:49:55 GMT -5
. . .and everyone knows about 0.0000000000000001% of taxes go to what its intended for. Not everyone knows. And you just pulled that statistic from your bum.
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Post by illicit on Jan 14, 2006 23:51:03 GMT -5
. . .and everyone knows about 0.0000000000000001% of taxes go to what its intended for. Not everyone knows. And you just pulled that statistic from your bum. Well, yea, there is no proven statistic for how much politicians steal from us, its more like 2% goes to its funding, but whatever.
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Post by Hunessai on Jan 14, 2006 23:54:09 GMT -5
Just stop pulling statistics and make a general statement, like "A large amount of tax money is redirected from their initial funds. [Insert source here.]"
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Post by illicit on Jan 14, 2006 23:59:25 GMT -5
Just stop pulling statistics and make a general statement, like "A large amount of tax money is redirected from their initial funds. [Insert source here.]" There is no source though, and I will pull out statistics when I want because they are generally( ) true.
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Post by Hunessai on Jan 15, 2006 0:09:57 GMT -5
If there is no source or proof, there is no argument. It is pure conjecture. And conjecture is completely and utterly useless in debate. Insisting on supplying false information (phony statistics) is also bad form.
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Post by illicit on Jan 15, 2006 0:14:52 GMT -5
If there is no source or proof, there is no argument. It is pure conjecture. And conjecture is completely and utterly useless in debate. Insisting on supplying false information (phony statistics) is also bad form. Damnit I forgot what it was called but there was this fighter in devolopments from the 80s, its pretty much halted any growth and we still put taxes into it I think, or at least we did a few years ago.
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Post by Hunessai on Jan 15, 2006 0:17:49 GMT -5
That's the ticket. If you had any links referencing the story, you'd be as right as rain.
I think that these sorts of laws are just one small step away from outlawing all government dissent.
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